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Originally posted by -Mrk- -Mrk- wrote:

od zdej naprej poslusam ta komad znizan za 19% :D


prosim za par besed tutoriala kako se to naredi, kaj to pomeni oz. kaj teh 19 procentov predstavlja.
Se opravičujem za moje nepoznavanje tehnične strani glasbe. Smile
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al pa še bolš - nekdo nej upload-a znižan celotni komad :)
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believe it, comrades!


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Čist verjamemo ... sej verjetn dons nič drugače ne misli, sam nima jajc, da bi to javno povedal ...
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HILL (?) THE ARIAN RACE
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wtf pomeni hill v tem kontekstu LOL
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Uhribi arijsko raso! :)
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Originally posted by Vargrim Vargrim wrote:

al pa še bolš - nekdo nej upload-a znižan celotni komad :)

mislm da je zlo enostavn če komad odpreš v BS playerju in znižaš hitrost predvajanja

Aja pa še nekoliko offtopic komentar k zgornji sliki (intervju): se samo meni zdi ali se zadnje čase res preveč komplicira glede te BM mizantropije, rasizma in splošne negativnosti? Mislim včasih si mel BM bend (no sj so še danes), ki je vse sovražil, bil popolnoma nastrojen proti črncem, židom in sploh vsakemu in vsemu kar je povezano z vero in je blo to nekako "vredu", pač smo rekli: "ok to je black metal, to spada zraven" al nekej v tem stilu. Pol so pa ratal popularni ti "nenevarni" BM bendi in danes se te "prave", zlobne, mizantropične nekej obsoja da so nestrpni, rasistični, itd... koji kurac!? to je pač black metal! Ni to point vsega? Sovražit vse, še posebaj verne, ne bele, itn... No da me ne bo kdo linčal, sej ne pravim da je taka drža vredu, ampak zdi se mi, da se danes ne-vem-od-kje pričakuje da bojo pa BM bendi, kljub svoji jeznosti, sovražtvu, špicam in corpsepaintu, še vedno v sebi naši dobro mero strpnosti, sočutja in neobsojanja za temnopolte (in ostale diskriminirane)... zakaj le, če je pa to black metal?

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Originally posted by Davorin.L. Davorin.L. wrote:


Originally posted by -Mrk- -Mrk- wrote:

od zdej naprej poslusam ta komad znizan za 19% :D
prosim za par besed tutoriala kako se to naredi, kaj to pomeni oz. kaj teh 19 procentov predstavlja.Se opravičujem za moje nepoznavanje tehnične strani glasbe. Smile


jst mam za to Realtek HD audio manager (dobu sm ga zravn zvocnikov) in tm lohka stimas te zadeve. sj pomoje je tut na netu pouhn takih programckov. bom probu to znizano verzijo nekak shrant, pa obest link gor ce mi rata.
These cities are illusions of some triumph over Nature's laws!
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če bi uploadu nekam bi blo super ^^
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je pa zanimiv, da je v znizani verziji komada samo drug del clean vokalov podobn vortexovim, pru del pa ne..
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-Hail to all true worshippers of death. Keep the black flame alive forever. Fight the trend without end! Death to false ones!
Our products are also available at my adress. Pa cenik zravn.

LOLLOL Fuck, this is gold! LOLLOL

Veliki borci proti trendom, a? Well, dans je situacija mal drugačna... LOL



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Black metal zacetki so v skandinavskih drzavah, kjer imajo res poslihtano socialo. Prvi bm so bli bolj vsega polni mladci, ki so hoteli biti zlobni in so zraven se mesali satanizem pa rasizem, mizantropijo, itd. Razen nekajn izjem, niso bil glih nevarni druzbi. Novodobni bm z nacistno konotacijo pa prihaja iz vzhoda evrope, kjer je ze nekaj casa neonacizem v porastu in tam res delajo pizdarije in VERJAMEJO V NACIZEM, zato tolk vecji halo.

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glede na datum intervjuja ter 19 sčegratovih let takrat je pričakovati da stresa neumne.
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na DB myspace strani nov komad s prihajajočega albuma...
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gateways je še bil do neke mere, ta je pa krneki:S
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Najboljš v videu Gateways je to, da ma na glavi uno hobotnico, k je napovedovala rezultate za SP v fuzbalu :))))
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Originally posted by Pero Pero wrote:

Najboljš v videu Gateways je to, da ma na glavi uno hobotnico, k je napovedovala rezultate za SP v fuzbalu :))))

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hahaha
Drgač pa mamo očitno opravka z death cult pt.2

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hahaha
Drgač pa mamo očitno opravka z death cult pt.2



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death cult je čisto solidna plata.
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Originally posted by Pero Pero wrote:

Najboljš v videu Gateways je to, da ma na glavi uno hobotnico, k je napovedovala rezultate za SP v fuzbalu :))))

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Nov komad ima čist (novejši) Satyricon-ish intro :)

Se pa sedaj po dveh objavljenih komadih že vidi v katero smer bo šla plata. Zanimivo je, da je dost orkestracije (ki se sliši fenomenalno, najboljše do sedaj...), kot da bi hoteli dokazat, da odhod Mustisa ni nič vplival na band... Sam sem pričakoval bolj kitarsko usmerjen nov album.

Bo pa Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia ostala nedotaknjena - sigurno Black Album tega desetletja :)



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Originally posted by najramch najramch wrote:

Bo pa Enthrone Darkness Triumphant ostala nedotaknjena - sigurno ena izmed Black Albumov tega desetletja :)


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Originally posted by najramch najramch wrote:


Se pa sedaj po dveh objavljenih komadih že vidi v katero smer bo šla plata. Zanimivo je, da je dost orkestracije (ki se sliši fenomenalno, najboljše do sedaj...), kot da bi hoteli dokazat, da odhod Mustisa ni nič vplival na band...

Bo pa Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia ostala nedotaknjena - sigurno Black Album tega desetletja :)





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Madona, ta stavkem ima vsaj pet interpretacijTongue
EDT bo teško karkoli tega desetletja.
PEM pa je naredila res neverjeten premik benda in ne vem s kakšnimi razlogi ljudje ki poznajo in Puritanical in Death Cult cenijo slednjega bolj. Uganka življenja pač. Čeprav se mi z leti dodzeva, da je Sprirtual black dimensions tista plata po kateri bi se rad spomnil tega benda. Ambient... strkuture... zvok... vse paše skupaj... No seveda pa EDT tudi... to je 'temeljno delo' tega pod-pod-žanra :)
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Originally posted by Davorin.L. Davorin.L. wrote:

...Čeprav se mi z leti dodzeva, da je Sprirtual black dimensions tista plata po kateri bi se rad spomnil tega benda. Ambient... strkuture... zvok... vse paše skupaj...


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ko si dam to plato gor me odpele čist v nek drug svet, v neko drugo dimenzijo - definitivno njihov najbolši izdelek.
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Dimmu Borgir izbirajo video dneva na Rockonnet!

http://www.rockonnet.com/clanek.php?id=2&article=12030
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Od jutri naprej plata naprodaj v štacuni MASTER OF METAL!!! In to navadna in deluxe edicija!!!

V torek pa še koncert v Zagrebu ...
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Originally posted by Davorin.L. Davorin.L. wrote:

Madona, ta stavkem ima vsaj pet interpretacijTongueEDT bo teško karkoli tega desetletja.PEM pa je naredila res neverjeten premik benda in ne vem s kakšnimi razlogi ljudje ki poznajo in Puritanical in Death Cult cenijo slednjega bolj. Uganka življenja pač. Čeprav se mi z leti dodzeva, da je Sprirtual black dimensions tista plata po kateri bi se rad spomnil tega benda. Ambient... strkuture... zvok... vse paše skupaj... No seveda pa EDT tudi... to je 'temeljno delo' tega pod-pod-žanra :)Skratka... u bistvu popolnoma nepotreben post


js se neb obešal na moje "sam da je" poste iz dolgčasa drgač pa Gateways je imo top komad plate, DB mogoč...orkestracije na splošno okusne, komot bi bil zadovoljen sam z njimi, brez metal materiala...podrobnejšo oceno prepuščam osebkom, ki bodo plato temeljitejše predelali
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a je že leaknal?!
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že včeraj popoldne ...mislim na cdrip...webrip je že online nekaj časa...

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cela plata? :o

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no, kakorkol že, nabavim orginal (kot vse njihove plate razn In sorte diaboli ker mi album smrdi) da ne bo kake pomote ˇˇ

Edited by Vargrim - 23.Sep.2010 at 18:52
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se opravičujem ampak... ABRAHADABRA? očitno sem edina k sem se šele ta moment pozanimala za album title.. 
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Sam plata dejansko zveni res dobro ... 
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tole bo spet en epski report potreben Cool
Hmm... mislim, da sem pozitivno presenečen. zaenkrat.
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presenetljivo vredu je Thumbs%20Up
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po novem so vortexove vokale nadomestil z pevskim zborom na matriki. je kul, ampak vortexu niti do kolen ne seže. aja, pa igrajo ga 2 poltona nižje kot na albumu.



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Simen je nenadomestljiv. sicer so clean vokali snowy shawna na plati dobrodošli ker so nov veter v jadro, sam ne sežejo epski razsežnosti vortexovih vokalov - škoda je edino da je Simen dokaj lena oseba ker ma kr neki dobrih zadev npr Lamented Souls, omenjen je tudi njegov solo projekt, no za reunion Arcturus bo drug na vokalu sam SS je nora plata, pr Borknagar je, kar je posnel, ekstaza (razen pr komadu My domain so preveč nasneti vokali in izveni umetno) in kar je pri Dimmu borgir ustvaril je pustilo kar velik pečat.

no sam še to, da so Borknagar mel za napovedano turnejo po južni ameriki, ki je sicer bla odpovedana, Simena na vokalu in basu ker je Tyr zapusto band, Andreas pa ne utegne - kar bend dejansko potegne nazaj v čase Quintessence postave kar je nadnoro. upam da bo tut tak na evropski.

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Ja, nova plata od Dimmu je zame tudi pozitivno presenečenje tak da se predvaja redno na ipodu :)

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aja na posnetku je zanimiv da ni Ščegy obdržal belega drag queen imidža kot je prikazan na promo fotkah in videu - pa še onih vlkih bodic so se losal.


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Davorin,zelo dobro napisana recenzija albuma!   
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V zadnjem času se mi zdi da v black metal podobju ni niti 20% več toliko volkov, kot jih je bilo včasih. Toda tudi to se obrača... no, ker volkov ne moreš glih na vrvico dat in jih peljat na sprehod (ok, tehnično jih lahko, toda...) bodo tudi psi ok:


http://www.skullsnbones.com/profiles/blogs/dimmu-borgir-dimmu-borgir




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imo najbolši spot od njih je Progenies of the Great Apocalypse.
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meni pa je Vortexov solo projekt vzbudil zanimanje:

I.C.S Vortex (Borknagar, ex-Dimmu Borgir, ex-Arcturus) has revealed more details about his solo release, entitled Storm Seeker:

"I finally got the master tape of the first ICS Vortex album! Storm Seeker contains 11 tracks and holds 45 minutes of groovy hooks and signature clean vocals. Brewed in a dirty metal pot, ingrediens included are Stoner Rock mashed with BM, 70's prog spiked Pagan and alternative roots fried Norwegian style. Some of the song titles are "Skoal!", "Dogsmacked", "Oil in Water" and "Odin's Tree".

It's been a year of sporadic work at Toproom Studio with engineer Børge Finstad. My good old teammate from Borknagar, Asgeir Mickelson (Sarke, Spiral Architect), handles the drums, and Terje "Cyrus" Andersen added some solos. Mix was done by Børge, Asgeir and me. A record deal is in the works and we're looking at a release in good time before summer 2011.

The solo project has pretty much evolved into a band, and on future live appearances the recording line-up will be joined by Jens F. Ryland (Borknagar) on guitar and Steinar Gundersen (Spiral Architect, Sarke) on bass."



Glede spota mi je pa ful smešno koko samo ti trije klovni pozirajo, basit, klaviaturist in bobnar pa so skriti

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vargrim Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26.Dec.2010 at 09:51
ta njegov projekt se že dle časa vleče, me pa res zanima ta mešanica ki jo navaja. no sicer kot fan vortexa, album nestrpno pričakujem, neglede na to kak bo, ker njegov vokal je zame ekstaza! pa tudi lepo bi bilo slišat borknagar live glede na to da trenutno nadomešča live vokalista\basista.
poleg tega naj bi že tut bil končan album od Lamented Souls, tak da naslednje leto ko se to izda bo dvojna doza vortex heroina (^-^).

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Originally posted by Vargrim Vargrim wrote:

ta njegov projekt se že dle časa vleče, me pa res zanima ta mešanica ki jo navaja. no sicer kot fan vortexa, album nestrpno pričakujem, neglede na to kak bo, ker njegov vokal je zame ekstaza! pa tudi lepo bi bilo slišat borknagar live glede na to da trenutno nadomešča live vokalista\basista.
poleg tega naj bi že tut bil končan album od Lamented Souls, tak da naslednje leto ko se to izda bo dvojna doza vortex heroina (^-^).


Trojna če se ga še ujame na kerem od koncertov.

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Dimmu Borgir - Forces of the Northern Night (2011) HDTVRip


Tracklist:

1. Intro
2. Xibir
3. Born Treacherous
4. Gateways
5. Oving Med KORK
6. Dimmu Borgir
7. Vredesbyrd
8. Rigging av Spektrum
9. Progenies of the Great Apocalypse
10. The Serpentine Offering
11. fans fra hele verden
12. Puritania
13. Mourning Palace

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Kaj je to zdej neki z celotno odigranimi prvimi tremi albumi na 'posebni' angleški turneji? A so res britanci tolk posebni?LOL Sicer bojo itak zihr z matrico vse posilili, ampak vseeno... kaj če ne bodo?
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Stormblast so itak že lepo uničili s tistim rimejkom (in zagotovo bojo igrali te verzije). Se bojim, kaj bo šele s For All Tid!!! Mamicu jim...
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vračanje k korninam? tole bi pa rad vidu
en mrzu burek bi
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imo bo to še eno razočaranje več. enthrone darkness triumphant bi znal še kolkr tok izpadit, ostalo pa crap.
js se za silo tolažim s starim DVDjem, pa tale nov z orkestrom tud ni švoh. če
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