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    Posted: 24.Nov.2009 at 18:51
Opazil sem da ful ne marate breakdownov. V vsaki rezenciji ko kak bend vsebuje breakdowne je takoj popljuvan... pa me zanima zakaj?

I know..ker jih je lahko zašpilat ni melodije itd.. sam đžžž đžžžž :D

Ampak meni so breakdowni nekaj najboljšega v komadih, dajo mi neko energijo..npr. na koncertih ko je kak breakdown se mi zmeša  :S
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evo pa za tiste keri nimate pojma kaj je breakdown->
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kaj je pa za debatirat? ne sede nam.
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ja en je reku da je to bedn zdej pa kr vsi tko pravjo..tko to gre tuki
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.°ker jih folk ne zna uporablat.(!)
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ma če je breakdown lepo narjen paše povsod
če je pa tko kukr sti nakazu da je skoz v muzi je pa fail
edit:lep primer je od overkill my name ist pain komad
tist breakdown riff nakonc je prow sex


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Originally posted by Everlost Everlost wrote:

.°ker jih folk ne zna uporablat.(!)


Če se to nanaša na bend Before The Murder, se s tabo popolnoma strinjam.

Breakdowni niso napačna stvar, sam žal se danes prepogosto dogaja, da uničijo zelo dober komad. Komad, sestavljen iz samih breakdownov je totaln užaš in zlati primer kaže video od avtorja tema, kjer je zbirka dokaj nedomiselnih in dolgočasnih breakdownov, kjer se da vse predvidet.

In zakaj nosijo majce od Necrophagist tele bendi? A bomo pol mislili, da gre za neki orenk tehnični deathcore. Yeah, right.

Sj obstaja nekaj izjem, sam zaenkrat se premalo zgledujejo po Meshuggah, da bi bili lahko breakdowni zares zanimivi. Future Breed Machine
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Men se zdi da je tak kot je Tyrant reku...en je to se zimislo oz. reko da so bedni breakdowni in zdej so bedni. Tak ko se tud pr nekaterih bendih znajo najded Growli in screami pol pa še kak clean vokal med komadom pa je takoj emo bend al pa shit bend...pol pa nevem pol so bendi ki majo skos clean vokal shit bedni al po emo!

Edited by Kataklysm - 25.Nov.2009 at 00:30
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Originally posted by Godpuppy Godpuppy wrote:

Če se to nanaša na bend Before The Murder, se s tabo popolnoma strinjam. Breakdowni niso napačna stvar, sam žal se danes prepogosto dogaja, da uničijo zelo dober komad. Komad, sestavljen iz samih breakdownov je totaln užaš in zlati primer kaže video od avtorja tema, kjer je zbirka dokaj nedomiselnih in dolgočasnih breakdownov, kjer se da vse predvidet. In zakaj nosijo majce od Necrophagist tele bendi? A bomo pol mislili, da gre za neki orenk tehnični deathcore. Yeah, right. Sj obstaja nekaj izjem, sam zaenkrat se premalo zgledujejo po Meshuggah, da bi bili lahko breakdowni zares zanimivi. Future Breed Machine


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men so pa breakdowni sicer ful všeč, me pa moti, da se vedno uporablja le en in isti najnižji akord. škoda met pol sedemstrunko, če so 3 strune dost
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Originally posted by Kataklysm Kataklysm wrote:

Men se zdi da je tak kot je Tyrant reku...en je to se zimislo oz. reko da so bedni breakdowni in zdej so bedni. Tak ko se tud pr nekaterih bendih znajo najded Growli in screami pol pa še kak clean vokal med komadom pa je takoj emo bend al pa shit bend...pol pa nevem pol so bendi ki majo skos clean vokal shit bedni al po emo!


kok mi grejo nakurac komentarji, ki nakazujejo da ljudje nimajo lastne volje. ti tole razglašej v popkulturi ne pa med metalci. mi se ne ukvarjamo s trendi. enim to gre v uho drugim ne. tud sam sm mnenja da znajo zlo grdo pokvart dobro osnovan štikl. tole kar smo slišal od avtorja nakuazuje da so breakdowni ne zato, kertja pašejo, ampak ker so enostavno fillerji, ker jim ne leži pisat drugačnih aranžmajev. kuga!

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Breakdowni so nek brezvezen element, tipičen za emo/metal/hard/death-core glasbene zvrsti.
Metalci pa pač poslušamo metal in to je metal forum.
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Aha, ravno tako so nepotrebni kot frulice in violine. Pa jih je vse več.
Torej, zakaj se čudimo nad vsem pol sploh?
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tud frulic ne poslušam.. samo mi znajo vseen dvignt tlak če kdo začn teme načenjat zakaj metalci tega nočmo sprejet:D
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Pa smo tam. Povsod bodo neki novi/stari elementi, ki jih v metalu določeni ali mnogi ne bodo sprejeli. Debata gre s takimi zadevami v nedogled.

uuu, baje so tole breakdowni.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ivan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25.Nov.2009 at 13:31
Jaz ne pljuvam takoj benda z breakdownom, ker jih je mnogo res dobrih.

V death metalu sem opazil dobro rabo breakdownov pri Whitechapel ali Aborted, v NYHC-ju so njih mojstri bili Vision Of Disorder ter Biohazard, v thrashu DewScented.

Sam breakdown (kitarski) ni problem, problem je tista predvidljivost, kako bo stvar izpadla ne samo pri kitari, ampak tudi pri bobnih.

Meni je recimo super, ko rečejo Unearth v komadu This Lying World "Breakdown" in se potem sesuje vse v kaos, haha!

Je pa problem breakdowna v tem:
kitara: džn-džn
boben pa: tup ------------ ta --------------tu tup ------------ta
vokal pa: jeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargggggggggghhhhhhhhhh

In to v vsak bend pa ti po 10.000-tem že gre na živce, hehe.

Dober breakdown na pravem mestu je zakon! (Pantera) Če pa je le filler, potem je tako kot blast beat, arpeggio solaža, scream, bas slap ali pa karkoli, čisto odveč oz. kaže na to, da folk nima nobenih kurčevih idej.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Janchk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25.Nov.2009 at 15:39
se čist strinjam s teglo! sicer pa ne maram (preveč) brejkov ker zajebejo faking zakon komade. in to prou zmer. itak mi pa ne sede več tok deathcorea poslušat, razen parih izjem ala. whitechapel, carnifex, despised icon, itd..te trije bendi so dokaz, da je tud deathcore lahk dobr. ostalih se več al manj izogibamBig%20smile
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Carnifex so najboljši dokaz, kako naredit dobr komad slab z enim in istim breakdownom. Neb jih ravno izpostavlju kot neki senzacionalnega, ker so Top Shit!
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sej carnifex ne maram zarad brejkdovnov, ubistvu nobenga benda ne maram zrd tega..te bende sm izpostavu zarad hudih vokalov, bonnarjev, pa kitarskih riffovWink
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Ok, poslušal sempru link ......mjenje o njem napišem čez 5 minut, kuj ko neham bruhat.
 
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sm hoto napisat da mi kdaj pa kdaj v kakem komadu (pr kakmu modernejšmu rocku, thrashu...) lahk čist sede, ampak ko sm klikno na link, pa.......... FAK NO???????  

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Originally posted by Godpuppy Godpuppy wrote:

Aha, ravno tako so nepotrebni kot frulice in violine. Pa jih je vse več.
Torej, zakaj se čudimo nad vsem pol sploh?

Nisem nikjer zasledil, da bi se kdo čudil zaradi zgražanja metalcev nad frulicami in violinami in zaradi svojega začudenja odpiral temo. Mogoče ti to samo tvoja samica ves čas teži, pa se ti tako dozdeva.
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Očitno nisi dojel sploh bistva. Sicer pa ja, raje ti ostan pri raznih Korpiklaanih in Amon Amarth jajcih, ki v metal prinašajo toliko inovativnosti, da še deathcore bendi izpadejo manjšina, ki naj bi uničevala tako pristno glasbeno zvrst.
In ne rečt dvakrat, da nau kaka tema še na to padla. Konc koncev majo Žrec hate temo, tuki pa se najde še glam.
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pizda, Šwed, a teb baba vsaj za praznike vrne jajca pa dovoli hlače obleč?
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Baje se bo za božička zgodilo ja. LOL
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Originally posted by Godpuppy Godpuppy wrote:

Očitno nisi dojel sploh bistva. Sicer pa ja, raje ti ostan pri raznih Korpiklaanih in Amon Amarth jajcih, ki v metal prinašajo toliko inovativnosti, da še deathcore bendi izpadejo manjšina, ki naj bi uničevala tako pristno glasbeno zvrst.
In ne rečt dvakrat, da nau kaka tema še na to padla. Konc koncev majo Žrec hate temo, tuki pa se najde še glam.

Očitno si si pošteno vagino v šlic priščipnil, da si tako tečen. Hotel sem le reči, da je vse to "čudenje" nesmiselno. Če metalcem nekaj, česar ne smatrajo za metal in je prepoznaven element neke druge glasbene zvrsti, ni všeč, ne vidim nič čudnega ali spornega.
Če so pa folku breakdowni, frulice ali druga "nemetal" nesnaga všeč, mi pa čist dol visi za njihove uboge duše Big%20smile
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ne pljuvam kar tako sam morm pa spluvat vse videote kle razn od meshuge walda.Big%20smileta1 je dost fail,tist od šweda ta2 je pa prva klasa kako ne nardit
sploh neki kr se reče muzka.beetween the bueried in mee my new favourite bend :)

moderni breakdowni in sploh tole krtako je krneki.
edit:še post je ratu čudnLOL


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ma sej je zakon da bend upočasni zadeve. pravtako je zakon da je cel komad počasen. sam zelo grdo je pa ko nek bend pri vsakem komadu uporabi isti recept za breakdown. in to brez kakršnekoli inovativnosti.
še bolj pa je grdo, ko ravno začnejo dobro žgat, pa nato vse pokvarijo s takim brakdownom.
Drugače pa ne morem rečt da le-teh ne maram, eni so res zakon. Sej ko Pantera počas žaga se noben ne prtiožuje, ane? Zadn del Dominationa je zakon!
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Je pa problem breakdowna v tem:
kitara: džn-džn
boben pa: tup ------------ ta --------------tu tup ------------ta
vokal pa: jeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargggggggggghhhhhhhhhh


In to v vsak bend pa ti po 10.000-tem že gre na živce, hehe.



Exactly ... jst dejansko ne bi vedu da gre za razlicne bende na prvem videoti, ce ne bi sopalo zdravn imen od vsakega. Kitara v D al pa C in sekaj prvo struno, vsake tolko kak pinch. Pr muziki mi gre na kurac da vsi bendi zvenijo popolnoma identicno zto tudi raznih emotov in power metalcev ne prebavljam ...

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izstopajoči primer, kak lahk breakdown(i) precej pokvari komad...ko sploh ne paše v komad... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUBRVhP0i84  (tam po 2:50 se začne kolaps)

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sej ni tok v kurcu sam posnetek je pa čist ukurcu
pa triggerji je preveč čist
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Originally posted by Goregrindmadnes Goregrindmadnes wrote:

izstopajoči primer, kak lahk breakdown(i) precej pokvari komad...ko sploh ne paše v komad... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUBRVhP0i84  (tam po 2:50 se začne kolaps)



meni ga je izboljšal..
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Originally posted by Goregrindmadnes Goregrindmadnes wrote:

izstopajoči primer, kak lahk breakdown(i) precej pokvari komad...ko sploh ne paše v komad... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUBRVhP0i84  (tam po 2:50 se začne kolaps)



meni ga je izboljšal..
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evo pa za tiste keri nimate pojma kaj je breakdown->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFvnxtmEZLA&feature=related


S takalo "musko" bi lahko na sodiščih v parih sekundah iz obtoženca iztisnili resnico. Dead

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Originally posted by Ivan Ivan wrote:


Je pa problem breakdowna v tem:
kitara: džn-džn
boben pa: tup ------------ ta --------------tu tup ------------ta
vokal pa: jeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargggggggggghhhhhhhhhh


In to v vsak bend pa ti po 10.000-tem že gre na živce, hehe.



Exactly ... jst dejansko ne bi vedu da gre za razlicne bende na prvem videoti, ce ne bi sopalo zdravn imen od vsakega. Kitara v D al pa C in sekaj prvo struno, vsake tolko kak pinch. Pr muziki mi gre na kurac da vsi bendi zvenijo popolnoma identicno zto tudi raznih emotov in power metalcev ne prebavljam ...


Mislm, da so današnji core bendi celo nižji. Maš nekaj primerov z Drop D ali C. Drugače pa so na B (ponavadi sedemstrunka), nekateri celo na drop A. Recimo Suicide Silence so pa celo na osemstrunki. Sicer za to špilat ne rabiš več kot šest strun, ampak za vsako struno več mislijo, da bodo imeli globlji sound in obenem je prisotno še malce večje nepotrebno preseravanje.
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Originally posted by Godpuppy Godpuppy wrote:

Originally posted by Ventor Ventor wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan Ivan wrote:


Je pa problem breakdowna v tem:
kitara: džn-džn
boben pa: tup ------------ ta --------------tu tup ------------ta
vokal pa: jeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargggggggggghhhhhhhhhh


In to v vsak bend pa ti po 10.000-tem že gre na živce, hehe.



Exactly ... jst dejansko ne bi vedu da gre za razlicne bende na prvem videoti, ce ne bi sopalo zdravn imen od vsakega. Kitara v D al pa C in sekaj prvo struno, vsake tolko kak pinch. Pr muziki mi gre na kurac da vsi bendi zvenijo popolnoma identicno zto tudi raznih emotov in power metalcev ne prebavljam ...


Mislm, da so današnji core bendi celo nižji. Maš nekaj primerov z Drop D ali C. Drugače pa so na B (ponavadi sedemstrunka), nekateri celo na drop A. Recimo Suicide Silence so pa celo na osemstrunki. Sicer za to špilat ne rabiš več kot šest strun, ampak za vsako struno več mislijo, da bodo imeli globlji sound in obenem je prisotno še malce večje nepotrebno preseravanje.


Nevem če si kitarist al ne...ampak sam za razumevanje...

Drop uglasitve so čist nek druzga :D

Mislm Drop D alpa C ni nižje od D alpa C uglasitve...ampak je fora v tem da znižaš samo low E na D in ostalo pustiš na 440hz, pri drop C pa daš E na C, ostalo pa na D tuning...tko da ubistvu delaš power chorde samo z enim prstom na low E struni, ostali so pa navadni :D

Najbolj znani so po takih drop tuningih SAVATAGE...pa kšni METAL CHIRCH, ki so to že v 80. letih počel :D


PS. aja sm šenkrat prebral tvoj post, pa sm dojel da mogoče tega ne misliš kot nižjih uglasitev ampak kot ločen primer, in potem sedem/osem strunke navajaš kot primer :D no anyway, ni važno.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Godpuppy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29.Nov.2009 at 17:51
Vem, kaj misliš točno. Mal sem narobe izrazil oziroma hotel poudariti, da je pri core bendih pogosta drop uglasitev. Sj praktično za tiste breakdown riffe uporabljajo le eno struno (zatorej potem drop)
Se strinjam, da drop D ni nižje. Sam pač narobe sem se izrazil (my bad).
Sicer pa prihaja pri teh skupinah do B ali A, kar je nižje, kot je to navedel to Ventor, da gre za D ali C uglasitve.
Drop pa se uporablja točno zato, kakor si navedel, da šopajo power chorde z enim prstom.

Drgači primer Drop D benda je recimo Lamb Of God
Drop C pa se mi zdi The Black Dahlia Murder.
Sam tuki se že malo oddaljujem od breadkdown topica.
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Jst do predkratkim nism vedu kaj je "breakdown", ampak verjetno je to to (po drugi minuti):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QX-UWI_7Sw
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Breakdowns are sooooo last year...

This is teh new shitz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5886Nb_psg

Auto-tuning + techno + breakdowni -> kaj si sploh lahko še želimo??
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I'd ban emo, screamo and breakdowns...those things should be punishable by death je rekel enkrat Scott Ian...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ozee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06.Dec.2009 at 03:11
Originally posted by najramch najramch wrote:

Breakdowns are sooooo last year...

This is teh new shitz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5886Nb_psg

Auto-tuning + techno + breakdowni -> kaj si sploh lahko še želimo??


Mesa boogie sound produkcija pa zakon glede na njihovo muziko LOL drgač pa ne potegnem kaj uporabnega iz tega vn.
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Originally posted by najramch najramch wrote:

This is teh new shitz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5886Nb_psg

Auto-tuning + techno + breakdowni -> kaj si sploh lahko še želimo??


ke je kle not techno? ce mislis uno stvar na knocu si mal u temo brcnu LOL
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Crabcore!!!

Edit; sj so res za crknt smešni, a 31 milijonov klikov na njihovi MS strani pa ni zgolj iz samega sovraštva.


Edited by Godpuppy - 06.Dec.2009 at 18:22
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...če že morjo bit naj bojo podobni tem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2zmUHZEwYM&feature=related
 
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niso slabi.. evo taki bdowni so naprimer vam všeč torej metal publiki..   deathcorovci majo raje NULA šopanje....al pa ena kitara bdown druga pa kako melodijo to mi je tudi všeč.

example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqbrvwht144

al pa z melodijo : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnHb-ioJ1oI
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hja...emmure pfuj...rose funeral http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kcQ5aDDX-0&feature=related
ta komad sem si zavrtel prevečkrat ko je plata bla dosegljiva...predvsem zarad tistga scream/growl napeva tam pr 1:50...pa mi je bil preveč keči da bi ga spregledu....ja oča grešiu sem Cry
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUId5f1-KbE
1min,19sekund - Xmas breakdown.

Men osebno so kul, kdaj jih je pa kr preveč, v kakih komadih, 30% komadov novih bandov recimo bi blo kul. Parkway drive - breakdown na breakdown v določenih komadih, njim pašejo.
Pa pljuvite, nam je kul !!!
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A ves zakaj nihce ne mara breakdownov?
- Zato, ker jih uporablajo metalcore-ovci.
- so vedno isti
- ni glasba

Populacija, ki jim pa je to vsec pa pravijo tako:
- tezka je glasba
- ker crusha skull ob floor
- vsak breakdown je unikaten(ubistvu ni)
- tezje je dojemanje glasbe
- lahko moshas na to
- karakter benda je cist drugacen ce ima breakdowne

Ce vse to sestejes je ubistvu breakdown neka fekalna zmes, ki jo ljudje radi jedo, da bi bili uknikatni. Potem taki prestopijo v grupo visje in pluvajo cez to. Pac tako nastanejo zvrstni hibridi.
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