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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jovo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10.Jan.2014 at 06:53
Men bo zmerej fascinantno to, da bo folk s polnim gobcem alkohola pluvou po travi pa se dru, da to pa ne, to so hasisarji, to je skodljivo, trava je unicla moje frende, itd itd ...

Pa ne leti tole na nobenga, sam opazanje, kako se dokaj veliko ljudi v Sloveniji obnasa. Mal pretiravamo s temi dvojnimi merili.

Dokler to ne vpliva name direktno (travo se je lahko dobilo ze prej, pa tudi v prihodnosti bo ma voljo) in me nobeden ne sili konzumirat, je nasprotovanje temu isto, ko da bi sou pred mercator pa se dru: prepovejte alkohol. Ce se to slis neumno je samo zato, ker tudi je. Live and let live, huh?

Edited by Jovo - 10.Jan.2014 at 06:56
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Originally posted by Jovo Jovo wrote:

Pa ne leti tole na nobenga, sam opazanje, kako se dokaj veliko ljudi v Sloveniji obnasa. Mal pretiravamo s temi dvojnimi merili.


To pa brez dvoma.:) Sam precej opažam sicer, če se nas direktno nekej ne tiče, potem nam je težko mar. No, dokler bi ostalo samo pri 'vseeno mi je', bi bilo verjetno še OK, pogosto se pa tak folk potem po defaultu kar postavi PROTI, ne vem čist točno zakaj.:D Ne nujno iz gole ignorance, mogoče iz čiste zlobe. Al kaj. Verjetno je kar kompleksen problem, ki ni zgolj slovenski.:S
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nekako razumem tako vedenje, ker sm ga prakticiral tudi sam kkšnih 6 let nazaj..ravno zarad te izkušnje, ker so mi kolegi, s katerimi smo prej aktivno preživljali čas začel poležavat, lenarit, blodit.. takrt sm tud jst v krču reagiral tako.. poudarjam, v krču, kar pomeni da ni podloženo s tehtnim razmislekom. ko sm kasneje spet začel to prakticirat sem učinek začel doživljat precej drugače, predvsem pa kreativno, antistresno in nasploh je dodalo življenju eno začimbo radosti, sreče. Ne rečem, da kdaj ni vodilo v zlorabo.. zato mesečna januarska pavza še toliko bolj prav pride :) 


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Mislm, ce si bedak pa vsak dan spusis 10ko, itak, da te bo kr hitro zjebal na dolgi rok. Ampak to je isto, ko da bi nekdo vsak dan spiu flaso viskija, ki pa je, glejgazlomka, legalna.

Ni problem v substancah, problem je v folku, ki se ne zna kontrolirat. In ne krivit trave/drog za dejstvo, da so tvoji kolegi sami seb usli izpod nadzora. To je pateticno.
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Originally posted by frogstomp frogstomp wrote:

tako pa je bilo rastje okoli ljubljanskega gradu med prvo svetovno vojno :)



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ne alko ne trava nista kriva za to, da jih folk zlorablja.. no, nasa civilizacija zlorablja v bistvu celo vrsto reci.. zdrava mera nam nekak ni v krvi.. oz. je res redkim.. ampak najbrz je ze za neki dobr, da mors vcasih zavit s poti.. da spoznas brezpotje.. enim je to konkretna brca v rit..

ko se prebudi fasistka v meni, bi kr vse prepovedala.. :D pol si pa po drugi strani recem, da kaj hudica neki uravnavat, itak je vsak svoje srece kovac.. zalostno je edin to, ker nihce ni izoliran v tem svetu in posledicno vedno vsaj delno kujes 'sreco' se komu drugemu..

nikol nism mela problema s tem, da se ga vcasih nakresas.. tko al drgac.. ampak rekla bi, da nam predvsem manjka prizemljitve.. stika z naravo.. stika s sabo..

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sej to, se strinjam z obema, to je sicer že ideološko uprašanje ampak vsekakor sem za več individualizma kot predajanja pravic v roke tirana s pendrekom. 


največja blesarija mi je da grejo drezat na festivale kot je recimo madžarska ozora, kjer se je itak vedlo, da folk notr vozi laboratorjie v kombih .. folk se ga przadeva.. ampak.. ja in?! 


človk je nujno potrebn psihadelične izkušnje.. ta mu zmakne misli stran od agresije in prestrašenega tuljenja k odrešeniku.. oblastnikom vrjamem, da to ni po godu.

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Originally posted by frogstomp frogstomp wrote:

]človk je nujno potrebn psihadelične izkušnje.. ta mu zmakne misli stran od agresije in prestrašenega tuljenja k odrešeniku.. oblastnikom vrjamem, da to ni po godu.

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če te res zanima ti polinkam zgodnje eksperimente z gobami, LSDjem, meskalinom... v času, ko je bilo še legalno in so jih testirali na "normalnih družinskih ljudeh" v iskanju terapevtskih uporabnosti. in so jih našli. nekateri znanstveni preboji so se zgodili pod močnim vplivom, največja svetovna kontrakultura v času vietnamske vojne se je zgodila, ker so ljudje pod vplivom psihadeličnih snovi za trenutk obrnil glavo stran od puhlic. ko je vojska zgrabila LSD so upali, da bodo iz vojakov nrdil mašine (mind control)... ampak ko je folk to pojedu je imel tako spiritualno izkušnjo, da so hotel za vedno zavreči puško.. če te zanima.. materiala je ogromno :)
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O izvoru življenja, o LSDju in posledičnem odkritju DNK...



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Originally posted by wikipedia wikipedia wrote:

Graham Hancock (born 2 August 1950) is a British writer and journalist. Hancock specialises in unconventional theories[1] involving ancient civilizations, stone monuments or megaliths, altered states of consciousness, ancient myths and astronomical/astrological data from the past. One of the main themes running through many of his books is a posited global connection with a "mother culture" from which he believes all ancient historical civilizations sprang.


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ej toook ti hvala za tole.. te govori so top :D eat your shroomies kids :D



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http://www.had.si/blog/2014/01/15/vlada-republike-slovenije-ne-podpira-predloga-zakona-o-konoplji/


kravatarji so povedal svoje, in sicer da bomo šli po isto poti kot do zdej, torej v podn.

Skratka podali so isto odgovor kot pred leti Katarina Kresal... torej sklicevanje na neke uredbe, kot da so te zapečatene... Če je tako, zakaj potem sploh imamo ljudi v parlamentu, če so tako nemočni, da jemljejo listine, ki so nastale spod peres v isti hiši, kot da so v kamen vklesane zapovedi? Ironično jim je uspel spremenit uredbe na področju avtorske pogodbe... in to tako, da so zaposlenim pod to obliko dela čez noč za cca 30% zmanjšal dohodek, v zameno za ene puhlice. 



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Originally posted by frogstomp frogstomp wrote:

pojasni svoj dolg obraz


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Frogi, si me spomnil zdaj na tale intervju (na 12:36) Big smile
Samo neko birokratsko nabijanje o tem, kako se konoplje ne sme legalizirati, ker je prepovedana, in kako so neke direktive in podobne oslarije.


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medtem čez lužo..


 
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Ta demokracija ne pelje nikamor.
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Če bi bil referendum bi tako ali tako zmagali tisti, ki smo proti, ker:
1.) bi zadetki pozabili, da je referendum,
2.) se zadetkom ne bi dalo do volišča,
3.) bi volilni list raje uporabili za podlago,
4.) ipd.
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Vraan, zakaj imaš napade "vsevednosti" zadnje cajte?
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Originally posted by Vraan Vraan wrote:

Če bi bil referendum bi tako ali tako zmagali tisti, ki smo proti, ker:
1.) bi zadetki pozabili, da je referendum,
2.) se zadetkom ne bi dalo do volišča,
3.) bi volilni list raje uporabili za podlago,
4.) ipd.
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Originally posted by Jovo Jovo wrote:

Originally posted by Vraan Vraan wrote:

Če bi bil referendum bi tako ali tako zmagali tisti, ki smo proti, ker:
1.) bi zadetki pozabili, da je referendum,
2.) se zadetkom ne bi dalo do volišča,
3.) bi volilni list raje uporabili za podlago,
4.) ipd.

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Sem par mesecev nazaj poslušal tole pa skoraj padel dol od smeha od enega komentarja, ki ga več ne najdem.


Pač da enemu rastejo na dvorišču in tip ima buldoga, ki ni samo neumen, ampak impresivno zabit. In ta buldog si je vtepel v glavo, da bo vsako pomlad pofrezal čimveč goldcapsov, kolikor jih bo pač zmogel, preden se odvleče v nek kot za kak dan ali dva 'to trip balls'. Takoj ko pride nazaj k sebi ponovi vajo, dokler jih najde.
Point: Kljub temu, da ga opazuje vsako pomlad to počet, ni cucek nič manj impresivno zabit, prej narobe.


Drugač pa ja, kar veselo. Mene ne moti, dokler me ne gre kdo ropat zaradi šusa heroina. Eni se bodo onesposobili in bo več šans na trgu dela zame - Das Kapital iz mene seka  Evil Smile

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----------> ta post je na pol navadna trolunga in se ga mora jemati resno samo pod vplivom.



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Originally posted by Vraan Vraan wrote:

Originally posted by Jovo Jovo wrote:

Originally posted by Vraan Vraan wrote:

Če bi bil referendum bi tako ali tako zmagali tisti, ki smo proti, ker:
1.) bi zadetki pozabili, da je referendum,
2.) se zadetkom ne bi dalo do volišča,
3.) bi volilni list raje uporabili za podlago,
4.) ipd.

Kavo z mlekom bi prosil.
Ti kar prosi.




Edited by Jovo - 16.Jan.2014 at 18:46
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Farmacevtska industrija se bo do zadnjega diha otepala marihuane, saj bi jim odžrla dobiček, razen če se bodo prej spomnili, da jo začnejo tržiti kot tablete.
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glede na komentarje vseh večjih domačih portalov mi ideja o referendumu zgleda obetavna. razn na slo1 portalu, kjer so jih dobil pri ponarejanju rezultatov ankete... poleg tega je medijska podpota boja zelo zelo pozitivna, o zakonski ureditvi se strinjajo tudi vidnejša društva in inštituti.

sklici na te mednarodne konvencije in pravne akte so mi pa tak bullshit. vse skupi se je zapisalo pod direktno komando amerike oz. njihovih lobistov... zdej ameroti svoje 50 let stare grehe odprvljajo.. mi pa še vedno ne vidmo dlje od teh dokumentov.. :S  



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Naslov teme je zavajujoč - nič še ni bilo zavrnjeno, podano je bilo zgolj negativno mnenje vlade. Zavrnjeno bo takrat, ko bodo poslanci v državnem zboru večinsko glasovali proti.

Men osebno gre najbl v nos pesimizem v tem boju in nasploh v vojni za boljši jutri. Vsi se pizdimo cele dneve da itak ne bo penzije, davki grejo gor, voda bo privat lastnina..., ko se pa stvari začnejo očitno premikat v smeri izboljšave, oziroma se neko področje začne temeljito urejat, potem takoj začnejo deževat menja ala "ma sej to itak ne bo nič iz tega", alpa "vlada se ne strinja, vsega je konc", "farmacija nm bo itak vse pobrala", "stare mame bojo šle na referendum pa spet nč nau". Sej razumem da se je precej lažje kregat kot pa kej dejansko narest, samo dej nej pol govorijo tisti, ki majo zanos in znanje, naša vloga pa je, da jim damo eno vzpodbudno po hrbtu pa brcnemo v rit (npr. s tem da gremo podpisat). Ta stavk bi lahko tud pa poslance pršparal, ampak kdaj je treba tud pred domačim pragom pomest.

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sej po ljubljani jih je že cahunek odmetavu


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Če kdo ne ve: obstaja tudi toplotna izolacija iz konoplje. 

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Če meni date semenke jih bom pojedel ne pa posadil, tako da nima smisla...
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Če bi to veljalo, bi jaz že zdavnaj razpadel zaradi obeh faktorjev :)
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lej kva se majo radi ljudje :)

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kot tudi človek brez knjig ni učen in brez hrane ne raste. a je morda problem v tem, da manjka od krke štemplj? 



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Ne bit taka zloba no žužk LOL

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Originally posted by frogstomp frogstomp wrote:

kot tudi človek brez knjig ni učen in brez hrane ne raste. a je morda problem v tem, da manjka od krke štemplj?

 

Hrana = potrebna za preživetje

Droga = a res morm napisat sploh... Haha prov predstavlam si prfokso v šoli k reče otrokom: "Če ga naute pohal pa naute zrasl."


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je res. vendar pa je tudi res, da enim ljudem duhovnost in s tem duhovna hrana.. nista potrebna elementa življenja. tistim, ki so v to smer razviti tudi duhovna smrt ne diši.. ampak to je zdej tko k da bi slepmu razlagu barve... 
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Originally posted by frogstomp frogstomp wrote:

je res. vendar pa je tudi res, da enim ljudem duhovnost in s tem duhovna hrana.. nista potrebna elementa življenja. tistim, ki so v to smer razviti tudi duhovna smrt ne diši.. ampak to je zdej tko k da bi slepmu razlagu barve... 
 
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verski blazneži so znotraj indoktrinacije šolskih sistemov in ustaljenih paradigm. nism pričakoval, da boš razumel.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vraan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21.Jan.2014 at 14:54
63. člen - Prepoved spodbujanja k neenakopravnosti in nestrpnosti ter prepoved spodbujanja k nasilju in vojni

Protiustavno je vsakršno spodbujanje k narodni, rasni, verski ali drugi neenakopravnosti ter razpihovanje narodnega, rasnega, verskega ali drugega sovraštva in nestrpnosti.

Očitno ne smem več pisat v to temo, verske nestrpnosti pa ja ne bom širil.
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