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Posted: 20.Apr.2017 at 12:52 |
a, že praznuješ
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Posted: 25.Apr.2017 at 06:50 |
Karen Straughan delivers a dose of brutal truth! <3 Response to Jordan Peterson's comments on MGTOWhttps://youtu.be/faeT4fIFAcg
"...it's not that every woman wants to destroy your life - it's that she
can do that if she wants to and legally get away with it..." 100% on point! To ni problem posameznikov, ampak je legalni in splošni družbeni problem.
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Posted: 25.Apr.2017 at 10:05 |
ah.. točno 2 minuti je peterson namenil diskusiji na to temo(še to ne, v okviru neke druge zgodbe je mal posolil o tem), in zdej k je izbruhnil v javnost se jastrebi okoli vsakega komentarja nabirajo.. pomoje res ni neki ful misli namenil temu...
jst bi reku da je migtow sestavljen izvorno iz tistih, ki so odkrili zadevo the hard way... in pol so te mlajši, ki ubistvu sami nimajo take izkušnje ampak so channelerji ideje.. njegova ideja resnice je itak tisto kar nam pomaga preživeti.. in zato ni preveč fen tega avtodestruktivnega bundla idej.
to je res the issue dns s katerim se more vsak srečat.. odrasli del življenja za moškega predstavlja tak riziko če se odloči za družinsko življenje da gre z lahka na tehtnico z alternativami..
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Posted: 25.Apr.2017 at 11:18 |
Karen Straughan se cel lajf ukvarja s temi področji in jih pozna res dobro. Mism, da je njen komentar 100% na mestu!
To so sistemsko družbene stvari, ki jih je potrebno naslovit in jih uredit. [generacijsko]
Dokler bo sistem za enaka dejanja kaznoval moškega z zaporom, žensko pa nagrajeval z denarjem sploh ni debate. Dogaja se pakt med ženskami in državo, ki ga folk ne razume.
Mi bomo nardil vse zato, da bo čim več "Z" generacije tipov zbujenih in prizemljenih glede teh zadev.
Ta sistem je kar se tipov tiče narjen izključno tako, da skozi hodijo papki, pičke, menđajne, SIMPI in na splošno SOCIOPATI.
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Posted: 25.Apr.2017 at 13:00 |
gledam tole zdej.. sm na polovici.. res je dobr artikulirana ženska.
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Posted: 25.Apr.2017 at 14:39 |
Karen Straughan je men res zakon. Sj na koncu mism, da prav povdari, da ji je sicer Peterson zakon. Tud meni je zakon, sam tle je mal na hitro rekel imo.
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Posted: 26.Apr.2017 at 19:46 |
Ej, a je rekel Peterson nekaj v stilu, kot da je naša družba med drugim najbolj razvita doslej, ker je osvobodila ženske? Nekaj v tem smislu? moj odgovor na to je : to bomo še videli. Osebno se zelo strinjam s tistim videom Black Pigeona, ki je izšel vzporedno z štartom migrantske krize, ko je odkrival ozadje, kaj družbi v resnici prinaša "osvobojena" ženska in formiranje haremov, ter popolno uničenje tradicionalne institucije družine. Zanimivo mi je predvsem to, kako z lahkoto nas žre Islam in kako se mu ta "najbolj razvita" družba ponižno in sluzavo uklanja.... Po mojem bomo še videli, če smo res tako napredni in razviti. V kolikor si nas bo Islam na koncu podredil na račun vse status prostitucije in vseh pičk, ki jim je bil pomembnejši status od lastnega dostojanstva, bo po mojem težka....
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Posted: 28.Apr.2017 at 09:16 |
HeatStreet wrote:
Study: Describing Breastfeeding as ‘Natural’ Is Unethical Because It Reinforces Gender Roles https://heatst.com/culture-wars/study-describing-breastfeeding-as-natural-is-unethical-because-it-reinforces-gender-roles/
It’s “ethically inappropriate” for government and medical
organizations to describe breastfeeding as “natural” because the term
enforces rigid notions about gender roles, claims a new study in Pediatrics.
“Coupling nature with motherhood… can
inadvertently support biologically deterministic arguments about the
roles of men and women in the family (for example, that women should be
the primary caretaker,” the study says.
The study notes that in recent years, the U.S. Department of Health
and Human Services, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the World Health
Organization, and several state departments of health have all promoted
breastfeeding over bottle-feeding, using the term “natural.”
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Posted: 28.Apr.2017 at 21:48 |
Noro, a zdej se vtikajo še v vez med otrokom in materjo!?
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Posted: 28.Apr.2017 at 21:53 |
info za vse metalke in metalčice
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Posted: 29.Apr.2017 at 00:10 |
Potty Mouth wrote:
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Za Feminizem je vloga tradicionalne mame sramotna. Feminizmu je mladim ženskam uspelo v glavo vcepit idejo, da je tradicionalna vloga mame za luzerje.... sadove te prelepe ideologije pa žanjemo danes.... Feminizem je na ravni ženskega to, kar je na ravni moškega Islam - prav nič me ne preseneča, da so se tako v nulo trofli v zavezništvu za uničenje Evrope [in Zahoda].
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Ti ljudje bodo enkrat odrasli in ko se bodo zavedeli, kako grobo in globoko so jih lastni starši zlorabili, bodo postali uporniki..... konservativizem in desnica bosta še naprej postajala novi "PUNK" !!! Kar tako naprej feminacistične sociopatke! Kar tako naprej....
Conservative.News wrote:
Feminist Mom Promises To Turn 3-Year-Old Son "Into A Proud Princess Whether He Likes It Or Not"
She's making him take ballet class. http://www.conservativenews.com/article/2499/left-wing-feminists-freaks-out-when-her?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro
Leftist feminists are becoming a parody of their own movement.
America’s
neighbors to the north are having their own problems with third wave
feminists. One left-wing Canadian writer had a meltdown when she
realized that her son wanted to act like a boy. She is forcing him to
take ballet to punish him for his masculine microaggressions.
The Daily Wire reports,
I’m
going to turn the little alphabet belcher into a proud princess whether
he likes it or not," says Canadian columnist and proud feminist Leah
McLaren of her thee-year-old son.
McLaren
can't handle the reality that her three-year-old son James is very
masculine; he doesn't like pretty flowers, the princess movie Frozen, or
pink popsicles. Clearly, young James has been affected by societal
pressures and cultural norms, or something, so McLaren has made up her
mind to save him from his toxic masculinity and all that entails by
forcing traditionally "girlish" things upon him, like crowns made of
flowers and ballet classes.
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Prav res! They're like MEMES of themselves!
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Posted: 02.May.2017 at 23:01 |
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Bill Nye The Jewish Guy
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Med tem, ko znanstvena javnost in njen cheerleading "I f-king love science" squad pridno molčijo [kot vedno], so ga na netu raztrgali na kose! Hehe... intelektualna prostitutka Nye je mislil, da bo lahko to SJW gnojnico prodajal kot znanost.... hahaha.... ja - na akademiji in med svojimi "I f-king love science" pussyi že. Ti požrejo vsak drek, ki jim ga serviraš, če ima predznak "science" Najboljši komentar spodi LOL
Social justice warriors are cancer mixed with aids and a sprinkle of herpes?
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Must be that "Toxic Masculinity" thing
TheGetewayPundit wrote:
Antifa Chick Goes to Turkey With Muslim Loverboy, Gets Raped and Beaten http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/antifa-chick-goes-turkey-muslim-loverboy-gets-raped-beaten/
Lacy MacAuley is a well known radical left-wing Antifa
organizer in Washington D.C. She was featured in Project Veritas’
undercover videos which exposed the #DisruptJ20 plot to violently
disrupt President Trump’s inauguration.
Just like every other lunatic leftist, Lacy fell in
love with Islam and became obsessed with helping Syrian ‘refugees’,
wholeheartedly believing that Islam is the religion of peace. MacAuley
details her experience dating a Turkish Muslim man, describing the hell
and fear she lived in because he controlled every move she made, beat
and raped her.
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Posted: 11.May.2017 at 15:14 |
> Those "Shades of Grey" copies did not sell themselves
Vice wrote:
Why Are So Many Women Searching for Ultra-Violent Porn?New data reveals that women in their droves are
searching for porn with tags like "extreme brutal gangbang", "forced"
and "rape".https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn
A quarter of straight porn searches by women are for videos featuring violence against their own sex. Five percent of searches by women are for content portraying nonconsensual sex. While men still search for significantly more porn than women, search rates for these more extreme types of sexual content are at least twice as common among women than men. Those statistics make for fairly surprising reading, but are the facts Dr Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, a former Google data scientist, discovered when he was given complete access to PornHub's search and views data for his upcoming book. "If there is a genre of porn in which violence is perpetrated against a woman, my analysis of the data shows that it almost always appeals disproportionately to women," he writes. But why are so many women so keen to see videos tagged with, say, "painful anal crying", "public disgrace" or "extreme brutal gangbang"? Or content marked as "forced" or "rape"? The feminist porn movement – one focusing on equality and empowerment – might be thriving, but the data shows, proportionally, women are also consuming much more of the most extreme misogynistic sexual material available online. So if women who fantasise about rape
or coercive sex are actually some of the most liberated out there, is it
the same story for women who watch violent porn? It's not that
clear-cut. There has been very little research into the latter, but a study
from 2011 found the women most likely to watch porn – especially the
most extreme kinds – were those who had suffered sexual assaults and
psychological violence at the hands of their families.
Dr Raj
Persaud, a British consultant psychiatrist, broadcaster and author,
said that unlike the women in the rape fantasy study, we don't know the
situation of the women searching for violent porn. "I think it's
probably the case that women who've been abused have ended up with a
disturbed view of sex," he told me. "People who've suffered former
psychological trauma or abuse are often in abusive relationships – they
repeat the cycle. We don't know whether the people doing those searches are in an abusive relationship, and are
doing the searches because they are being coerced into doing so. "There
are a lot of unknowns, and without speaking to the women who are
searching for this porn, we can't know whether they have been abused.
What the search data shows is there's a secret side to people's lives,
which psychologists can have difficulty accessing."
Dr Gail Dines, professor of sociology
and women's studies at Wheelock College, Boston, and a prominent
anti-porn campaigner, told me: "Until we know how long [the women are]
staying on the porn sites, and have actual empirical evidence about what
they are doing while on the sites, we don't know if they're looking out
of interest, or doing it because that's what their boyfriends or
hook-ups want, or if they're actually masturbating to it." However,
says Dr Dines, one thing's for sure: "If these women [who watch violent
porn] have been abused, [they] are actually digging the trauma further
into the firing and wiring of [their] neurones, driving it further into
their limbic systems, and porn delivers a massive hit to the limbic
system because you're watching someone going through the same trauma you
did." So while women who fantasise about violent or coercive sex
are apparently often sexually-liberated and have high self-esteem, it's
as yet unknown if the same can be said about women who search for
violent porn. The data shows us women are searching for this stuff, but until someone commissions a big old study around the topic, we'll never truly know why.
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This is why Women don't mind the Sodomy of Europe....
Psychology.Today wrote:
Why Do Women Have Rape Fantasies?
Rape fantasies reflect women’s erotic comfort—wherever it may lead.
Posted Aug 01, 2015
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201508/why-do-women-have-rape-fantasies
In recent studies, more than 90 percent of women admit having had sexual fantasies,
and depending on the study, some one-third to two-thirds confess at
least occasional fantasies of being forced into sex. Of course, sexual
assault is a horrible violation. Why would any sane woman fantasize
about it? A recent study suggests that rape fantasies are most prevalent
among women who are the most erotically open and adventurous, who feel
most comfortable daydreaming about sexual situations way beyond what
they’d ever want to experience.
Researchers at Notre Dame and the University of North Texas gave
standard psychological tests to 355 women undergraduates, who formed a
reasonable demographic cross-section of young Americans. Then the
researchers surveyed the women’s sexual fantasies. And finally the women
were asked if they’d ever fantasized:
1. Being forced by a man to surrender sexually against my will.
2. Being forced by a woman to surrender sexually against my will.
3. Being forced into a sex against my will because I was incapacitated by drugs, alcohol, or being unconscious.
4. Being forced by a man to give him oral sex.
5. Being forced by a woman to give her oral sex.
6. Being forced to have anal sex.
7. Being raped by a man.
8. Being raped by a woman.
Note: The researchers did not define “forced” or “rape,” leaving participants to use their own understanding of these terms, “forced” having somewhat less negative connotations than “rape.”
Explanations Old and New
This study was far from the first to attempt to understand why some women have rape fantasies.
Decades ago, psychologists believed that dreams and fantasies (daydreams) were subconscious wishes, therefore, women who had rape fantasies actually wanted
to be coerced into sex. That view has been thoroughly debunked.
Fantasies don’t necessarily reflect wishes. Among those in long-term
relationships, one of the most common fantasies is sex with someone
else, even when the daydreamer is happy in the relationship and has no
real desire to jump into another bed. Plenty of men fantasize saving
damsels in distress without the slightest real wish to face a raging
fire on the 23rd floor. Wishing plays a role in some fantasies, notably
dreams of striking it rich or losing weight, but having an erotic
fantasy in no way means you want it to come true.
So forget wish fulfillment. Today psychologists suggest that women’s rape fantasies have three other possible explanations:
• Sexual blame avoidance. This is the most popular explanation. It recognizes that women’s erotic desires may trigger feelings of anxiety, guilt, and shame.
How can women enjoy robust sexual fantasies without developing these
feelings? Fantasize about being forced. That way, women aren’t
responsible for the sex and need not feel distressed about it. I was forced. It wasn’t my fault.
• Sexual desirability. This explanation reflects the
arc of romance fiction, which is wildly popular among women (and the
single largest-selling category of fiction). In romance novels, a
powerful, dangerous man becomes so enthralled by the protagonist that he
must have her, even if his pursuit is assaultive. Eventually, she tames
him and they marry and have children. The sexual-desirability
explanation says that women have rape fantasies to bolster feelings of
seductiveness and desirability. I’m so hot. I drive men crazy.
• Sexual openness. This explanation says that women
who enjoy sex and accept their enjoyment without anxiety, guilt, or
shame feel sufficiently free to play with erotic scenarios beyond the
boundaries of what they’d ever want to experience in real life. It’s fantasy. I’m free to fantasize anything.
The Results
Confirming earlier studies on the prevalence of rape fantasies, 62
percent of participants admitted fantasizing at least one of the eight
scenarios:
Forced by a man: 52%.
Raped by a man: 32%.
Forced oral by a man: 28%.
Forced while incapacitated: 24%.
Forced by a woman: 17%.
Forced anal: 16%.
Raped by a woman: 9%.
Forced oral by a woman: 9%.
Note: The participants were considerably more likely to fantasize
being “forced” than “raped,” presumably because “rape” carries more
connotations of violence and harm.
The high prevalence of rape fantasies—almost two-thirds of the
women—suggest that they play a significant role in the fantasy lives of
college-age women ... and presumably many older women as well.
Meanwhile, in line with other assessments, 15 percent of study
participants reported being survivors of sexual assault. The researchers
found no relationship, either direct or inverse, between real-life rape
and whether participants had any type of rape fantasy.
The frequency of rape fantasies varied considerably. Among
respondents who admitted fantasies of being forced by men, 33 percent
had them less than once a year, 26 percent a few times a year, 20
percent once a month, 11 percent weekly, and 9 percent at least four
times a week.
Among the 71 participants who reported fantasies of being forced by women, 50 said they were heterosexual.
Which Explanation Is Most Compelling?
Contrary to the conventional wisdom that rape fantasies are based on blame avoidance (I was coerced. It wasn’t my fault.), the researchers found this the least supported explanation. The most sexually anxious, guilty, and repressed women had the fewest rape fantasies.
The data provided the most support for sexual openness (I’m free to fantasize anything.) followed by sexual desirability (I’m so hot. I drive men crazy.)
The most sexually open and self-accepting women had the most rape
fantasies. They also had the most fantasies of consensual sex. And they
reported the most arousal from their erotic fantasies.
The women who considered themselves hotties also had frequent rape
fantasies. (They were also the most likely to fantasize being
strippers.)
In fantasy, everything is permitted and nothing is wrong. Not
everyone accepts this, but as sexual openness increases, so does
willingness to daydream about sexual scenarios one would never really
want to experience.
Women who have rape fantasies don’t want to be sexually assaulted. They feel comfortable with their own sexuality and are happy to embrace their erotic fantasies—wherever they may lead.
References:
Bivona, JM et al. “Women’s Rape Fantasies: An Empirical Evaluation of the Major Explanations,” Archives of Sexual Behavior (2012) 41:1107.
Bivona, JM and. “The Nature of Women’s Rape Fantasies: An Analysis of Prevalence, Frequency, and Contents,” Journal of Sex Research (2009) 46:33.
Critelli, JW and JM Bivona. “Women’s Erotic Rape Fantasies: An Evaluation of Theory and Research,” Journal of Sex Research (2008) 45:57.
Shulman, JL and SG Horne. “Guilty or Not? A Path Model of Women’s Forceful Sexual Fantasies,” Journal of Sex Research (2006) 43:368.
Spitzberg, B. “An Analysis of Empirical Estimates of Sexual Aggression Victimization and Perpetration,” Violence and Victims (1999) 14:241.
Strassberg, DS and LK Lokerd,” Force in Women’s Sexual Fantasies,” Archives of Sexual Behavior (1998) 27:403.
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Kwa to enim dogaja v glavah :) Ninja je zgleda spet ornk zafrustriran in meče vse ženske v isti koš - ta praw fanatik - isti kurac kokr uni džihadisti al pa anti-fa manijaki. Verjetn niti 5% vseh žensk na svetu ni takih, kokr Ninja govori, da so vse take - a se temu mogoče reče ekstremno posploševanje? :) Sveta Ninja med vas širi Najsvetejšo Resnico - pokorite se neverniki in potem takoj spreobrnite kajti Sveta Ninja ne pozna milosti do drugače mislečih :)
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Gmajnar wrote:
Kwa to enim dogaja v glavah :) Ninja je zgleda spet
ornk zafrustriran in meče vse ženske v isti koš - ta praw fanatik - isti
kurac kokr uni džihadisti al pa anti-fa manijaki. Verjetn niti 5% vseh
žensk na svetu ni takih, kokr Ninja govori, da so vse take - a se temu
mogoče reče ekstremno posploševanje? :) Sveta Ninja med vas
širi Najsvetejšo Resnico - pokorite se neverniki in potem takoj
spreobrnite kajti Sveta Ninja ne pozna milosti do drugače mislečih :) |
čustva + osebni napadi takele reakcije samo potrjujejo sum.
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My
theory is that the more men allow themselves to be governed by women,
the more women will subconsciously yearn for even harder and more toxic domination by dominant men.
This must be some kind of perversion - it's not normal.
What we're wintnessing in my opinion is the manifestation of the
repressed female fantasies that were given birth by feminist destruction
of male dominant role in our culture.
I might be wrong but everything
points into that direction. You can't possibly explain why they're
cheering the migrants that are raping them...
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To mi deli - klasična Ninja: čustva, projekcija, ad hom, not an argument, nezmožnost kontriranja,... s takmu človekom se pa ni za zajebavat :) Ninja je spet zmagal na svetovnem igrišču (internet) in do konca zmlel enga (tokrat mene), k ga ta Ninjina igra debatnih bitk sploh ne zanima :)
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da je pa še bl klasična Ninja pa poskrbi s tipko ''edit'' al pa kr zbriše cel post pa je uštiman :)
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Gmajnar wrote:
To mi deli - klasična Ninja: čustva, projekcija, ad hom, not an argument, nezmožnost kontriranja,... s takmu človekom se pa ni za zajebavat :)Ninja je spet zmagal na svetovnem igrišču (internet) in do konca zmlel enga (tokrat mene), k ga ta Ninjina igra debatnih bitk sploh ne zanima :) |
hahahaha ..... kaj pa delaš pol tle?
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Posted: 11.May.2017 at 22:35 |
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da je pa še bl klasična Ninja pa poskrbi s tipko ''edit'' al pa kr zbriše cel post pa je uštiman :) |
ni vredno, je pa zanimivo - ne zanimajo te debate, pa vseeno prebereš še tiste poste, ki jih kasneje brišem! Sj sam veš pr čem si, ti ne rabim sploh razlagat....
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Posted: 11.May.2017 at 22:45 |
kermu od naju mislš, da je več do tega, da prevlada v tej ''debati''??? :) Jaz nimam nobenih debatnih bitk tuki, sam naredu sem kratek opis tvojih psihoz v tej debati :) ti greš pa kuj v debatno bitko in začneš razčlenjevat vse stavke, ta praw besedni komandos :) Zdj si pa itak vse zbrisu in se ne ve o čem govorim - komedija :)
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Posted: 11.May.2017 at 23:03 |
Gmajnar wrote:
kermu od naju mislš, da je več do tega, da prevlada v tej ''debati''??? :) Jaz nimam nobenih debatnih bitk tuki, sam naredu sem kratek opis tvojih psihoz v tej debati :) ti greš pa kuj v debatno bitko in začneš razčlenjevat vse stavke, ta praw besedni komandos :) Zdj si pa itak vse zbrisu in se ne ve o čem govorim - komedija :) |
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Ninja je spet zmagal na svetovnem igrišču (internet) in do konca zmlel enga (tokrat mene), k ga ta Ninjina igra debatnih bitk sploh ne zanima :) |
zbrisal sem en post, k nima smisla. Že tko stokaš in jokaš, da te ni za prenašat.
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Torej ja..... nekateri bi radi svinjali, jokali in stokali, samo da bi preusmerili pozornost : da kopiram še enkrat relevanten post na konec debate :
Vice wrote:
Why Are So Many Women Searching for Ultra-Violent Porn?New data reveals that women in their droves are
searching for porn with tags like "extreme brutal gangbang", "forced"
and "rape".https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn
A quarter of straight porn searches by women are for videos featuring violence against their own sex.
Five percent of searches by women are for content portraying
nonconsensual sex. While men still search for significantly more porn
than women, search rates for these more extreme types of sexual content
are at least twice as common among women than men. Those statistics
make for fairly surprising reading, but are the facts Dr Seth
Stephens-Davidowitz, a former Google data scientist, discovered when he
was given complete access to PornHub's search and views data for his
upcoming book. "If there is a genre of porn in which violence is
perpetrated against a woman, my analysis of the data shows that it
almost always appeals disproportionately to women," he writes. But why
are so many women so keen to see videos tagged with, say, "painful anal
crying", "public disgrace" or "extreme brutal gangbang"? Or content
marked as "forced" or "rape"? The feminist porn movement – one focusing
on equality and empowerment – might be thriving, but the data shows,
proportionally, women are also consuming much more of the most extreme
misogynistic sexual material available online. So if women who fantasise about rape
or coercive sex are actually some of the most liberated out there, is it
the same story for women who watch violent porn? It's not that
clear-cut. There has been very little research into the latter, but a study
from 2011 found the women most likely to watch porn – especially the
most extreme kinds – were those who had suffered sexual assaults and
psychological violence at the hands of their families.
Dr Raj
Persaud, a British consultant psychiatrist, broadcaster and author,
said that unlike the women in the rape fantasy study, we don't know the
situation of the women searching for violent porn. "I think it's
probably the case that women who've been abused have ended up with a
disturbed view of sex," he told me. "People who've suffered former
psychological trauma or abuse are often in abusive relationships – they
repeat the cycle. We don't know whether the people doing those searches are in an abusive relationship, and are
doing the searches because they are being coerced into doing so. "There
are a lot of unknowns, and without speaking to the women who are
searching for this porn, we can't know whether they have been abused.
What the search data shows is there's a secret side to people's lives,
which psychologists can have difficulty accessing."
Dr Gail Dines, professor of sociology
and women's studies at Wheelock College, Boston, and a prominent
anti-porn campaigner, told me: "Until we know how long [the women are]
staying on the porn sites, and have actual empirical evidence about what
they are doing while on the sites, we don't know if they're looking out
of interest, or doing it because that's what their boyfriends or
hook-ups want, or if they're actually masturbating to it." However,
says Dr Dines, one thing's for sure: "If these women [who watch violent
porn] have been abused, [they] are actually digging the trauma further
into the firing and wiring of [their] neurones, driving it further into
their limbic systems, and porn delivers a massive hit to the limbic
system because you're watching someone going through the same trauma you
did." So while women who fantasise about violent or coercive sex
are apparently often sexually-liberated and have high self-esteem, it's
as yet unknown if the same can be said about women who search for
violent porn. The data shows us women are searching for this stuff, but until someone commissions a big old study around the topic, we'll never truly know why.
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Psychology.Today wrote:
Why Do Women Have Rape Fantasies?
Rape fantasies reflect women’s erotic comfort—wherever it may lead.
Posted Aug 01, 2015
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-sex/201508/why-do-women-have-rape-fantasies
In recent studies, more than 90 percent of women admit having had sexual fantasies,
and depending on the study, some one-third to two-thirds confess at
least occasional fantasies of being forced into sex. Of course, sexual
assault is a horrible violation. Why would any sane woman fantasize
about it? A recent study suggests that rape fantasies are most prevalent
among women who are the most erotically open and adventurous, who feel
most comfortable daydreaming about sexual situations way beyond what
they’d ever want to experience.
Researchers at Notre Dame and the University of North Texas gave
standard psychological tests to 355 women undergraduates, who formed a
reasonable demographic cross-section of young Americans. Then the
researchers surveyed the women’s sexual fantasies. And finally the women
were asked if they’d ever fantasized:
1. Being forced by a man to surrender sexually against my will.
2. Being forced by a woman to surrender sexually against my will.
3. Being forced into a sex against my will because I was incapacitated by drugs, alcohol, or being unconscious.
4. Being forced by a man to give him oral sex.
5. Being forced by a woman to give her oral sex.
6. Being forced to have anal sex.
7. Being raped by a man.
8. Being raped by a woman.
Note: The researchers did not define “forced” or “rape,” leaving participants to use their own understanding of these terms, “forced” having somewhat less negative connotations than “rape.”
Explanations Old and New
This study was far from the first to attempt to understand why some women have rape fantasies.
Decades ago, psychologists believed that dreams and fantasies (daydreams) were subconscious wishes, therefore, women who had rape fantasies actually wanted
to be coerced into sex. That view has been thoroughly debunked.
Fantasies don’t necessarily reflect wishes. Among those in long-term
relationships, one of the most common fantasies is sex with someone
else, even when the daydreamer is happy in the relationship and has no
real desire to jump into another bed. Plenty of men fantasize saving
damsels in distress without the slightest real wish to face a raging
fire on the 23rd floor. Wishing plays a role in some fantasies, notably
dreams of striking it rich or losing weight, but having an erotic
fantasy in no way means you want it to come true.
So forget wish fulfillment. Today psychologists suggest that women’s rape fantasies have three other possible explanations:
• Sexual blame avoidance. This is the most popular explanation. It recognizes that women’s erotic desires may trigger feelings of anxiety, guilt, and shame.
How can women enjoy robust sexual fantasies without developing these
feelings? Fantasize about being forced. That way, women aren’t
responsible for the sex and need not feel distressed about it. I was forced. It wasn’t my fault.
• Sexual desirability. This explanation reflects the
arc of romance fiction, which is wildly popular among women (and the
single largest-selling category of fiction). In romance novels, a
powerful, dangerous man becomes so enthralled by the protagonist that he
must have her, even if his pursuit is assaultive. Eventually, she tames
him and they marry and have children. The sexual-desirability
explanation says that women have rape fantasies to bolster feelings of
seductiveness and desirability. I’m so hot. I drive men crazy.
• Sexual openness. This explanation says that women
who enjoy sex and accept their enjoyment without anxiety, guilt, or
shame feel sufficiently free to play with erotic scenarios beyond the
boundaries of what they’d ever want to experience in real life. It’s fantasy. I’m free to fantasize anything.
The Results
Confirming earlier studies on the prevalence of rape fantasies, 62
percent of participants admitted fantasizing at least one of the eight
scenarios:
Forced by a man: 52%.
Raped by a man: 32%.
Forced oral by a man: 28%.
Forced while incapacitated: 24%.
Forced by a woman: 17%.
Forced anal: 16%.
Raped by a woman: 9%.
Forced oral by a woman: 9%.
Note: The participants were considerably more likely to fantasize
being “forced” than “raped,” presumably because “rape” carries more
connotations of violence and harm.
The high prevalence of rape fantasies—almost two-thirds of the
women—suggest that they play a significant role in the fantasy lives of
college-age women ... and presumably many older women as well.
Meanwhile, in line with other assessments, 15 percent of study
participants reported being survivors of sexual assault. The researchers
found no relationship, either direct or inverse, between real-life rape
and whether participants had any type of rape fantasy.
The frequency of rape fantasies varied considerably. Among
respondents who admitted fantasies of being forced by men, 33 percent
had them less than once a year, 26 percent a few times a year, 20
percent once a month, 11 percent weekly, and 9 percent at least four
times a week.
Among the 71 participants who reported fantasies of being forced by women, 50 said they were heterosexual.
Which Explanation Is Most Compelling?
Contrary to the conventional wisdom that rape fantasies are based on blame avoidance (I was coerced. It wasn’t my fault.), the researchers found this the least supported explanation. The most sexually anxious, guilty, and repressed women had the fewest rape fantasies.
The data provided the most support for sexual openness (I’m free to fantasize anything.) followed by sexual desirability (I’m so hot. I drive men crazy.)
The most sexually open and self-accepting women had the most rape
fantasies. They also had the most fantasies of consensual sex. And they
reported the most arousal from their erotic fantasies.
The women who considered themselves hotties also had frequent rape
fantasies. (They were also the most likely to fantasize being
strippers.)
In fantasy, everything is permitted and nothing is wrong. Not
everyone accepts this, but as sexual openness increases, so does
willingness to daydream about sexual scenarios one would never really
want to experience.
Women who have rape fantasies don’t want to be sexually assaulted. They feel comfortable with their own sexuality and are happy to embrace their erotic fantasies—wherever they may lead.
References:
Bivona, JM et al. “Women’s Rape Fantasies: An Empirical Evaluation of the Major Explanations,” Archives of Sexual Behavior (2012) 41:1107.
Bivona, JM and. “The Nature of Women’s Rape Fantasies: An Analysis of Prevalence, Frequency, and Contents,” Journal of Sex Research (2009) 46:33.
Critelli, JW and JM Bivona. “Women’s Erotic Rape Fantasies: An Evaluation of Theory and Research,” Journal of Sex Research (2008) 45:57.
Shulman, JL and SG Horne. “Guilty or Not? A Path Model of Women’s Forceful Sexual Fantasies,” Journal of Sex Research (2006) 43:368.
Spitzberg, B. “An Analysis of Empirical Estimates of Sexual Aggression Victimization and Perpetration,” Violence and Victims (1999) 14:241.
Strassberg, DS and LK Lokerd,” Force in Women’s Sexual Fantasies,” Archives of Sexual Behavior (1998) 27:403.
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Posted: 12.May.2017 at 16:13 |
brutal porn, brutal muska + tom boy disase epidemic... res je šu svet u kurac
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Posted: 12.May.2017 at 16:30 |
Urška Faller - Femme Feminite
to je to.
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Urška Faller - Femme Feminite
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Žal tega festivala potem ni bilo. Organizatorka ga je odpovedala zaradi groženj in morebitnega nasilja, ki naj bi ga izvajali nad prihajajočimi predavatelji. Uprli so se feministke in feministi. Ood Cankarjevega doma je odpoved festivala zahtevala tudi skupina znanstvenic in znanstvenikov.
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Posted: 12.May.2017 at 17:01 |
vend wrote:
Potty Mouth wrote:
Urška Faller - Femme Feminite
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Žal tega festivala potem ni bilo. Organizatorka ga je odpovedala zaradi groženj in morebitnega nasilja, ki naj bi ga izvajali nad prihajajočimi predavatelji. Uprli so se feministke in feministi. Ood Cankarjevega doma je odpoved festivala zahtevala tudi skupina znanstvenic in znanstvenikov.
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Huh, nism vedu. Predvidevam da je to zahteval povečini folk iz javnega sektorja, ter radikalna feministična gibanja... Mogoče bi kakšen bolj poglobljen komentar glede tega podal specialist v poznavanju fašizma, naš forumaš Speadge?
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Prvopodpisana pod izjavo za prepoved festivala je seveda dekanja in izredna profesorica na fakulteti za socialno delo, Vesna Leskovšek. To je tista fakulteta, ki je pred nedavnim tudi utemeljavala teorijo spola in razne lgbt vrednote. Celo študenti so se pri referendumu za družino oglasili, kako jim na fakulteti perejo možgane glede pedrskih in lezbičnih porok in posvojitev. Mavričarska fakulteta v glavnem.
Itak pa so feministi skrenili s poti v puščavo. Ženska je točno to, kar govori Urška.
Po mojem je tudi brez veze, da ženska tekmuje z moškim in obratno, tega v športu ni in tudi v poslovnem svetu ne. To tekmovanje je samo v glavah feministov, ki na oba spola gledajo v določenih primerih kot na dve različni živalski vrsti, v določenih pa zavračajo spol kot naravni razločevalec vlog pri reproduciranju. Uporabijo pač tisto kar jim najbolj ustreza.
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Posted: 12.May.2017 at 17:12 |
Točno tako, vse skupaj je ena navadna posrana pseudo znanost, ideološki hokus pokus...
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Sploh pa, zakaj se današnji feministi, oziroma emancipirane ženske v svojem gibanju še vedno imenujejo feministke. Po mojem bi bilo za njih bolj primerno ime neutristi. Torej tisti, ki se zavzemajo za nevtralen spol. Tako bi jih lahko lažje razločili od tistih žensk, ki se jim gre za poudarek in razvoj ženstvenosti, torej prav obratno od tega.
Neutristi in neutristke, v zgodovino se boste zapisali samo kot ena velika zabloda!
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Posted: 12.May.2017 at 18:57 |
Potty Mouth wrote:
brutal porn, brutal muska + tom boy disase epidemic... res je šu svet u kurac
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ne vem kaj se je belemu vitezu tako utrgal..... po mojem je samo naslove prebral. Nikjer ne piše, da vse.... lepo piše po % kdo kako in kaj..... saj samo uno Grafin bereš tle, vsaka druga beseda je "spank" .....
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vend wrote:
Žal tega festivala potem ni bilo. Organizatorka ga je odpovedala zaradi groženj in morebitnega nasilja, ki naj bi ga izvajali nad prihajajočimi predavatelji. Uprli so se feministke in feministi. Ood Cankarjevega doma je odpoved festivala zahtevala tudi skupina znanstvenic in znanstvenikov.
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hahaha.... tolk o svobodi govora in svobodi na splošno..... bo treba pr nas tud kak "proud boys" club ustanovit za telesne straže
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Posted: 12.May.2017 at 20:26 |
Hoministi manjkajo. Da bi dali kontra pederski kulturi.
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frogstomp wrote:
ah.. točno 2 minuti je peterson namenil diskusiji na to temo(še to ne, v okviru neke druge zgodbe je mal posolil o tem), in zdej k je izbruhnil v javnost se jastrebi okoli vsakega komentarja nabirajo.. pomoje res ni neki ful misli namenil temu... |
Mene je fasciniral, da Akademski profesor, doktor al kar kol že je, ve več o memetiksih, kot jst, čeprav sm jih zdele ful pozorno spremlju 2 leti.... Pač navdušen sem, da na svetu obstaja tolk odprt in inteligenten prfoks. Jordan Peterson prav je embodyment klasičnega liberalca, ki kaže ogromen FUCK OFF Kulturnemu Marxizmu na tak način, da pred njimi drži yuuuuge Ogledalo *Zdele, k sm se končno folka zlosal <3 si bom pa privošču revisit MAXWELL JORDAN-ovega dokumentarca Down of The New Day. <3 Model je leta 2009 VSE razložu do pike natančno, kar se zdele dogaja glede kulturnega Marxizma in približevanja 1984 Tiraniji.
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Hoministi manjkajo. Da bi dali kontra pederski kulturi.
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sem šou googlat. Mene lahko štejete zraven ^^ UNTIL MY DYING BREATH I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO DAMAGE FEMINISM JUST AS CULTURAL MARXISM IN GENERAL! DEATH TO FEMINISM!
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Js si to razlagam na način, da po "invaziji" so eni šli nazaj v normal mode aka ignore mode, mi smo pa še vedno v hype, pa je mal moteče
Or... maybe your pills are just to strong
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Jaz nisem prebral (mal sem sam na hitr preskoču) unih dveh člankov, k jih je Ninja objavu :) moj opis Ninjinih psihoz se je nanašu na njegove stavke v tistih dveh postih: ''This is why Women don't mind the Sodomy of Europe.... ''
'' Those "Shades of Grey" copies did not sell themselves '' Po teh dveh njegovih stavkih je kamot ocent, da on misle, da je ženskam vsen, če se dogajajo raznorazne pizdarije ženskam po Evropi, ker jih itak večina fantazira o posilstvu + to, da misle, če je ful žensk pogledal Shades of Grey film al pa so prebrale to knjigo, zdj so pa kr vse te ženske ene prasice, kurbe, mazohistke,... :) Jaz sem si zdownloadu ta film ene par mescev nazaj, da b' vidu, če je res tok grozen in slabo-vplivajoč na družbo, kokr ga eni hočjo prkazat - sem ugotovu, da je čist neškodljiva erotično/ljubezenska drama z dozo triler atmosfere :) Če si politično/ideološko motiviran (fanatik) se da v vsem najti sovražnika, ki bo krivec za tvojo zafrustriranost v življenju :)
Ninja že dolg cajta uživa v ekstremnem posploševanju žensk in zato pravm, da je isti kurac kokr drugi fanatiki :) Uživite še naprej v svojih pomembnih sarkastičnih bitkah na internetu :)
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Jaz nisem prebral (mal sem sam na hitr preskoču) unih dveh člankov, k jih je Ninja objavu :) moj opis Ninjinih psihoz se je nanašu na njegove stavke v tistih dveh postih:''This is why Women don't mind the Sodomy of Europe.... ''
'' Those "Shades of Grey" copies did not sell themselves '' Po teh dveh njegovih stavkih je kamot ocent, da on misle, da je ženskam vsen, če se dogajajo raznorazne pizdarije ženskam po Evropi, ker jih itak večina fantazira o posilstvu + to, da misle, če je ful žensk pogledal Shades of Grey film al pa so prebrale to knjigo, zdj so pa kr vse te ženske ene prasice, kurbe, mazohistke,... :) Jaz sem si zdownloadu ta film ene par mescev nazaj, da b' vidu, če je res tok grozen in slabo-vplivajoč na družbo, kokr ga eni hočjo prkazat - sem ugotovu, da je čist neškodljiva erotično/ljubezenska drama z dozo triler atmosfere :) Če si politično/ideološko motiviran (fanatik) se da v vsem najti sovražnika, ki bo krivec za tvojo zafrustriranost v življenju :)
Ninja že dolg cajta uživa v ekstremnem posploševanju žensk in zato pravm, da je isti kurac kokr drugi fanatiki :) Uživite še naprej v svojih pomembnih sarkastičnih bitkah na internetu :) |
Absolutno niso vse ženske iste, je pa vseeno neki resnice v tem kar piše Sid ko je govora o ženski nravi. Seveda pa ne podpiram žaljenja, poleg tega je še kontraproduktivno ker s tem prav nobene ne pridobiš na svojo stran.
Drgač pa tud z osebnimi napadi, žaljenjem, projeciranjem in diskreditiranjem ne boš nč rešu, kvečjemu nasprotno, kar je dokaz debata med Sidom in Speadgem. S tem poveš več o sebi kot o človeku katerga poizkušaš razvrednotit.
Če pa je določeno pisanje malce bolj zbadljivo ni nč narobe imo, dokler ne preide na osebno raven. Pol pa je to muka brat. Mal humorja/sarkazma v debati je ok, ker je debata tako bolj zabavna.
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Posted: 14.May.2017 at 17:16 |
Gmajnar wrote:
Jaz sem si zdownloadu ta film ene par mescev nazaj, da b' vidu, če je res tok grozen in slabo-vplivajoč na družbo, kokr ga eni hočjo prkazat - sem ugotovu, da je čist neškodljiva erotično/ljubezenska drama z dozo triler atmosfere :) Če si politično/ideološko motiviran (fanatik) se da v vsem najti sovražnika, ki bo krivec za tvojo zafrustriranost v življenju :)
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Bistvo tega filma je najbolje povzel Dino Hajderovič, ko je reku : "če jo prej pelješ s svojim helikopterjem, ji lahko potem tiščiš pest v pizdo" to je to....
osebno bi dodal, da gre za "the beauty & the beast" arhetip.
Kar pičke vlaži pri tej zgodbi je imo konec - una sociopatska pošast se "ZALJUBI" v pičko, kar pomen, da je pošast odtlej pod njeno kontrolo [marionetica]..... to je ultimativni vlažilec pizde in dokler boste take pičke, kot si ti, podpirale babje gestapovstvo in zavestno ostajali slepi za njihove manipulacije in laži, bo družba moralno samo še bolj tonila v živi pesek nihilizma....
Svet ni samo lep in fajn in podoba nežne ljubeče matere ni edini ženski arhetip. Eva je prva ugriznila v jabolko spoznanja, med tem, ko je bil Adam še blažen v ignoranci. Nekateri se niso v svoji kvazi guru new age tripoidni kaotični limonadi od lajfa naučil popolnoma ničesar.
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Posted: 15.May.2017 at 15:24 |
če jo prej pelješ s svojim helikopterjem, ji lahko potem tiščiš pest v pizdo |
best. report. ever :D
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Posted: 15.May.2017 at 17:22 |
frogstomp wrote:
če jo prej pelješ s svojim helikopterjem, ji lahko potem tiščiš pest v pizdo |
best. report. ever :D |
iščem video, pa ga ne najdem. https://www.youtube.com/user/Dinotti/videos tle nekje se skriva ta lepota Ne najdem SPLOH! [po mojem je blo nekje jeseni 2014, ko je oddal ta video] Mism, daj bla fora, da ga je ženska zvlekla ta film gledat in k je pršou v kino, je dojel, da se je zajebu - pa same ženske v kinu!!!! kje so ble vse feministke, da bi se uprle tej svinjariji? Je sploh na tem svetu ena feministka, ki se z menoj strinja, da je Shades of Grey sramota, ne samo za ženske, ampak za celotno zahodno civilizacijo?! ah sexist jst, k se mi zdi neokusno, da tip pički rine pest v pizdo, če ji je zadosti nadrejen in je zagledana v njegove miljone! Je pa res, da ko sm si ustvarjal mnenje o tem garbiđu nism vedel, da pičke ponoči sanjajo o tem, kako so posiljene....
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Posted: 15.May.2017 at 19:45 |
Peterson se že opravičuje Moj
problem ni v tem, da nam je rekel "pathetic weasel", moj problem je v
tem, da si model ni vzel časa, da bi mal povohal zadevo, ki jo komentira! Morda
pa je to en del podzemlja - en krog pekla, v katerega niti mojster
Jordan nima jajc stopit? Vidim, da mu še vedno ni pol kurca jasno, o čem govori. Jordan Peterson - Apology to MGTOW
https://youtu.be/7AGMeEGW6KQ
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Posted: 16.May.2017 at 00:03 |
kaj je pa spustil oz narobe povedal? men zgleda da se omeji oz. izpostavi samo ta dokaj osrednji del - da je predlog oz začrtana pot mgtow-vovcev kisla iz civilizacijskega pogleda. in to ni skladno z "be good to yourself, in a way that is good to your family, in a way that you and your family are good to others..." ... in v isti dvominutni sapi pove, da je sezanjen z vso pravno podlago, ki uresničuje tisto, kar se dogaja tipom.
Človk bije eno bitko že za freespeech, kot enega izmed stebrov civilizacije. Civilizacije ki jo, na drugem vogalu spodkopavajo različne partije z metanjem polen na ogenj vojne med spoloma. Black pidgeon speaks mislm da je reku "essencialy men signing out."
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Posted: 16.May.2017 at 00:58 |
frogstomp wrote:
kaj je pa spustil oz narobe povedal?men zgleda da se omeji oz. izpostavi samo ta dokaj osrednji del - da je predlog oz začrtana pot mgtow-vovcev kisla iz civilizacijskega pogleda. in to ni skladno z "be good to yourself, in a way that is good to your family, in a way that you and your family are good to others..." ... in v isti dvominutni sapi pove, da je sezanjen z vso pravno podlago, ki uresničuje tisto, kar se dogaja tipom.
Človk bije eno bitko že za freespeech, kot enega izmed stebrov civilizacije. Civilizacije ki jo, na drugem vogalu spodkopavajo različne partije z metanjem polen na ogenj vojne med spoloma. Black pidgeon speaks mislm da je reku "essencialy men signing out."
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Men je Peterson zakon, samo bi raje videl, da ne komentira zadev, o katerih nima pojma.
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Posted: 16.May.2017 at 09:37 |
če lahk natančneje.. zakaj praviš da nima pojma? zapiču se je v ta civilizacijski krč, ki ga povzroča ta mindset.
preprečat ljudi da je boljš sledit svojim privat ciljem, met več časa etc.. kot ga zabijat z žensko ali potencialno s familijo...
men ma mgtow dobre pointe v smislu da opozori na pravne scene in ostalo - to je dobro izhodišče za pogovort se s partnerko... da ji je jasno, da je teb jasno, kva vse se lahko v primeru razkola te zveze s tipom zgodi...
bolj kot gledam to zadevo, bolj se mi zdi da folk preveč znotraj tega dobi podobno ideološko lečo čez oči kot jo feminizm daje ženskam.. in pol se gremo opression game in victimhood na moški strani. morda z realnejšimi osnovami.
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