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    Posted: 18.Jul.2008 at 17:35
iščem, pa nisem našel teme namenjene basistom, oz bila je nekoč, sam očitno je ni več.

uglavnem, zadeva je sledeča. imam bas za katerega nevem kakšno poreklo je. nevem niti koliko je star, nikjer ne piše karkoli... sprva naj bi bil rdeče barve, nato so ga prebarval na črno (takšnega sem dobil). potem se je zadeva nekaj časa valjala po garaži in ker je oče zagrozil da bo jo stran vrgel (bila je čisto razstavljena), sem se jo odločil obnoviti. tako sem spravil barvo dol, obrusil, pobarval z barvo ki imitira barvo bora in slošču kovinske dele ki so že veselo rustali. problem pri tem basu je to, da je nehumano uglaševat strune. res zgubiš živce zraven ker moraš zgoraj nategniti struno, jo zategnat, šele potem s kleščami sukat spodnje vijake...
sedaj me pa zanima, če kdo ve (po obliki) kateri bas naj bi to bil in če obstajajo posebne strune za headless base? Star








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sry za off topic, a je tle kšn basist k nima benda pa bi špilu thrash:)
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Vargrim: ce se ne motim je to Warich/Worich, neki tazga. To je delala Melodija proti koncu svoje proizvodnje. V njihovi stacuni na Wolfovi se je nov dobil za takratnih 200mark (priblizno). Ze takrat se je vedlo, da je crap.

Igral ga je frend pri bandu Blitzkrieg (punk band).
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Originally posted by Einherjar Einherjar wrote:

Vargrim: ce se ne motim je to Warich/Worich, neki tazga. To je delala Melodija proti koncu svoje proizvodnje. V njihovi stacuni na Wolfovi se je nov dobil za takratnih 200mark (priblizno). Ze takrat se je vedlo, da je crap.

Igral ga je frend pri bandu Blitzkrieg (punk band).
 
Mogoče pa po prenovitvi ne bo več tak crap...WinkLOL


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Mozno, ampak glede na vlozek, se po moje bolj izplaca s tem podkurit kak prijeten ogenj.
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Melodija 100%. Ga ma identicnega basist od Pigs Parlament (punk), mi ga je kazu enkrat, ma sej ni biw slab za ga igrat :) Za sponat strune ga pa nism sprasavu nec ...

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hvala za vse informacije, zdej vem saj kak se imenuje :) zadeva bo kr lepo šla na zid za okras ker dvomim da se splača kupvat magnete pa ves tist kablaraj za naštelat not.

drgač pa obstajajo posebi strune za headless base? ker tist nategvat na vratu zgubiš živce zravn.
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Par čednih slikc dveh Tyrovih (Borknagar, ex-Emperor,..) novih bassov.




















Edited by Jan Ov Plain - 13.Aug.2008 at 22:31
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8-strunski bas, vau brutalno! Sam kak zvok mora met ta najbolj debela struna, ce je ze pri pet strunki ciz zamokla...
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kakšna zamolkla? tam se komaj začne pravi bass Wink
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To je sam pretiravanje...in nemogoče špilat. glede prvega basa pa si sistem strun opisal podobno kot je na mojem, sam da se pri mojem ni treba toliko trudit



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Eto, ena devet strunka :D
Pretiravanje na rahlo višjem nivoju ^^


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Pizda kolk kesha gre za strune... ze za mojga 6stunca je drag sport

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Še mal tehničnih podatkov:

Quote Bass 1:

8-string fretless 34" scale bolt-on construction
9-piece Maple/Bubinga neck with double trussrod
Ebony fretboard
2-piece Maple body with Ebony top
Audere preamp
BassCulture soapbar pickups
Either oil or wax finish 
The bass will feature some really cool carvings and Corian inlays taken from Norse mythology.

Bass 2:

8-string fretless 34" scale bolt-on construction
3-piece Maple neck with double trussrod
Ebony fretboard
2-piece Maple body
Audere preamp
BassCulture soapbar pickups
Black high-gloss piano finish

Tuning on both basses : F sharp-B-E-A-D-G-C-F


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Hahahaha kaki kekci so eni ljudje...pa ne mislim tebe s tem

pr 40 letih pa ui možni defekti hrbtenice:D potem bo pa Puzavnar dal njegovo sliko v Gore topic da se bomo smejali.

Prou povleku si bom en koncert alpa kako kliniko da vidim kolikokrat uporabi use strune...

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Pretiravanje na rahlo višjem nivoju :)
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men je tale bassist najači
macabre!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
taprav desc ma orodje pod streho
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Enkrat sm vidu 12-strunko, res butal. Drugače pa Joey DeMaio igra na 4 in 8-strunski bas in je zakon (s tem da se mi zdi da ima njegou 8-strunski bas dodatne 4 strune kot oktave - kot pr 12-strunskih kitarah - za bol poln zvok).
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...en majstr, ki igra na enjst-strunski bas. Tip obvlada!
Kej ima gdu tak bas u Sloveniji?
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jebeš to.in neSmilenben tega ne igra u sloveniji
vem pa tony choy igra chapman stick zgleda pa tko:

sam toj men prevečSmile
ampak še vseeno vse wictor wooten poje



Edited by puzavnar - 20.Aug.2008 at 22:00
taprav desc ma orodje pod streho
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Tu ima Wictor odbit solo duel z bratom:
 
Tu pa so trije najbolsi basisti na kupo:
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Bass je mišljen kot instrument za pokrivanje linij v ozadju razen določeih izstopanj...v čem je pol fora  8-12 strunksih bas kitar ki izvajajo višje tonske frekvence kot kitara.


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Bass je mišljen kot instrument za pokrivanje linij v ozadju razen določeih izstopanj...v čem je pol fora  8-12 strunksih bas kitar ki izvajajo višje tonske frekvence kot kitara.




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Že 6 strunke so za pimpeke, ki na 4 strunki ne znajo odigrati vsega, kar bi hoteli...Big%20smile
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Originally posted by Person-man Person-man wrote:


Eto, ena devet strunka :D
Pretiravanje na rahlo višjem nivoju ^^
 
ma dj te 8-9 strunke, to je prej za sneg kidat k spilat :D res lopata
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Evo mal Level 42. Kolk nism tru



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Status basses...yeah
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Jebeš bas z štirimi, petimi, dvanajstimi ali sedemintridesetimi strunami. Najprej se je treba naučiti igrat.
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Originally posted by Šujo Šujo wrote:

4string or death!

A se ne bi ti bolš znajdu na teli baski?

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Mislim, da ima tale tip vsaj eno struno preveč. Kakšen pa je.
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No, vsaj prizna, da uporablja samo eno struno. Mnogi imajo danes vse ostale samo za okras.
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Odločam se za nakup bas ojačevalca, takega bolj za vaje, 100w, cenovni rang 350-500€. Trenutno kolebam med Ibanez SW100 in pa Hartke Kickback-15 120w. Če ima kdo kakšne izkušnje z navedenima modeloma ali kak nasvet, se priporočam.
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kolega prodaja line6 175W za en tak dnar.


drgac pa rek.. Hartke prdijo, ibanezi samo smrdijo.

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Line6 je pa digitalen...

Sprobaj pa boš vidu...jest sm špilou na tga hartkeja ki pravš, je kul recimo za vaje z bendom, sam še zmjrej je Hartke...bulš ku Behringer sam še zmjr nje tku slabu.
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line6 je digitalen? ostali so pa na lampe? :) isto sranje zapakirano v druge vrečke. Vsa ta pocen roba laufa po istem kopitu, oz. ce hoces.. so "digitalni"...
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Wela klapa mene pej zanima kej bi rekli za nabavo glave '' HARTKE HA3500''  in pa boxa ''HARTKE VX410 4X10'' ???
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Jst sem pred časom to kombinacijo sprobal in je u bistvu kr solidna stvar, ampak daleč od tega kar mam jst rad od bas ferša.

Osebno mam rad zelo definiran, direkten in oster bas sound, dost middlast, ampak ne razmazan in obenem tud z zadostno mero podna.

Iz Hartke 3500 mi je ratal dobit lep midlast in punchy sound, manjkal mu je pa karakterja. Zvok je bil za moje pojme premal definiran, ne ravno prodoren in precej zapacan, ne glede na to kaj sem počel z glavo.

Po mojem mnenju je HA 3500 dost solidna glava in nudi kr precej za svoj denar, je dost versibilna in nastavljiva, obenem pa tud dost odzivna na spremembe nastavitev.

Kljub temu pa so Hartke daleč od tistega, kar bi jst rad mel od bas ferša.

Po mojem največ kar lahko nardiš pred nakupom ferša je to, da obiščeš vse možne trgovine z glasbeno opremo, ki so ti dostopne in probaš čim več različnih feršov in dobiš tak mal filling pri primerjavah feršov.

Priporočam ti pa, da poskusiš nekje probat kakšno Trace Elliot glavo, recimo GP7 ali pa GP12. Kakšne rabljene se da dobit dost poceni in za moje pojme nudijo res velik. Podobna stvar pri Gallien Krueger ferših.

Je pa vse skupaj res odvisno od tega kaj v feršterkerju iščeš.
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what he said ;)
 
hatrke je feršt, k lahko večalmn vsako zvrst pokrije med 85-90%, nobene a 100%. če češ feršt sam za metal kup Trace Elliota, če ne veš kaj vse boš špilal kup hartkeja, sam vzemi raj boks z alu membranami, je vseen bolš. mel vse varjante že, obstal na traceu :)
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Ma to je ena sama šminkerija 8 pa 12 strun pa ne vem kua še...Tu je tu:

 
 
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itak, alex bass je zakon!

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Originally posted by FABO-SUPERGRIZL FABO-SUPERGRIZL wrote:

itak, alex bass je zakon!

 
Sam katerega zdej mislš, al Aleksandra Cepuša, al Actooon-a, al Vikingvin-a? Big%20smileLOL
 
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fantje... prodajam mojga Warwicka corvette limited serijo ob 25.letnici, star slabe 2 leti... kej zanimanja?? cena 700eu

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Originally posted by Vargrim Vargrim wrote:

iščem, pa nisem našel teme namenjene basistom, oz bila je nekoč, sam očitno je ni več.

uglavnem, zadeva je sledeča. imam bas za katerega nevem kakšno poreklo je. nevem niti koliko je star, nikjer ne piše karkoli... sprva naj bi bil rdeče barve, nato so ga prebarval na črno (takšnega sem dobil). potem se je zadeva nekaj časa valjala po garaži in ker je oče zagrozil da bo jo stran vrgel (bila je čisto razstavljena), sem se jo odločil obnoviti. tako sem spravil barvo dol, obrusil, pobarval z barvo ki imitira barvo bora in slošču kovinske dele ki so že veselo rustali. problem pri tem basu je to, da je nehumano uglaševat strune. res zgubiš živce zraven ker moraš zgoraj nategniti struno, jo zategnat, šele potem s kleščami sukat spodnje vijake...
sedaj me pa zanima, če kdo ve (po obliki) kateri bas naj bi to bil in če obstajajo posebne strune za headless base? Star
Ja, to je bil znameniti proti koncu obstoja firme izdelan Melodija Worich bass. Cisto preprosta bas kitara s katero sem imel veliko veselja in same probleme. Tako pac je. Leta 1989 sem prodal 80 basno klavirsko harmoniko in kupili so mi to bas kitaro zelene barve, ki je ze v trgovini na Wolfovi imela skrivljen vrat, tako da je bilo treba kar mocno pritiskati na strune. Btw, strune so bile baje iz avstrije in so bile resnicno kakovostne - ko sem montiral Rotosound swing bass 66 ni bila kaksna sprememba. No originalnih strun se itak ni vec dobilo - le Rotosound in Warwick. Cena te baske takrat; ja, kot danes 130 eur. Trup in vrat sta iz javorja, ubiralka je rosewood in res za to uglasit si moral biti mojster. Zelo se je razglasevala in magneti so sumeli za znoret. Sledilo je menjavanje kablov, ker je vse sumelo. Nesel sem jo k Lajnarju, da bi mi pogledali zakaj tako sumi pa je pogledal cudno, kje sem to nasel in cez 2 dni sem jo prisel iskat. Slavko je rekel, da mu naj vec ne nosim tega hudica ker je to sranje in so magneti ter cela zadeva za 1 qurc. Kupil sem res drag kabel in zadeva se je le malo porihtala. Ok, meni je bila se vedno dobra. Nanjo sem se ucil od Queenov do Metallice in mi je se danes ZELO zal, da sem jo prodal. Skoda. Ne prodajajte svojih prvih instrumentov, ker vam bo se kako zal, resno. No, kot se vidi pri vratu zgoraj sta dve mesingasti kromirani ploscici za pritrditec strun (lock) in paziti je treba, da jih zategnes z obcutkom, ker rad poci vrat pod njima. Hecno, a resno. Ce pa ne zategnes zadosti, ti pa slece struno (mocan poteg strune s prstom in struna se "odplete" iz tega vpetja). Magneti so alnico in niso DiMarzio - of course. Te headless bsi so pac modna muha iz osemdesetih let, ko je bila bas kitara povsem zavrzena in prevladoval je sinth bas ali klaviature, potem pa so nekateri izdelovalci priceli z raznimi oblikami itd. Zelo kvaliteten headless bas je bil znamke Status Graphite, ki je slovel po izjemni stabilnosti vratu ter dobremu sustainu. Potem je uporabo karbonskih (ogljikovih) vlaken prevzela firma Modulus - se en Rolls Royce med basi. V glavnem, strune za to melodijo naj bodo pac navadne 45 - 105 ali 40 - 100 roundwound. Naj se omenim, da je konstruktor in izdelovalec tega Worich-a sam g. Nace Zaletelj iz Mengsa. Bil sem enkrat pri njem in mi je to povedal. Ojacevalce (serija Solist, bass head 200 itd.) pa je izdeloval pri Melodiji njegov sosed g. Tof.
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